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  • Requiem
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2008
    • 1725

    Beginning to load for M&P 9mm

    Hey, guys. I've been reloading for .308 only for a little over a year and a half now and it's about time I started loading for my M&P full-size 9mm. From what I can see, pistol loading is a little bit different than rifle, so any tips off the bat?

    I'm looking to use either 115 FMJ's or 124 FMJ's, and if I do use 124's then possibly trying to duplicate the m882 ball load. So where should I get started with powder for 9mm?

    Also, does anyone know where one could get pulled 9mm nato surplus bullets to load?

    Thanks in advance!
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  • #2
    JaeOne3345
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2010
    • 949

    I just started loading 147 grain truncated round nose 9mm projectiles from Bear Creek. They are moly coated. I use 3.5 gr of w231. I love em so far. No leading.

    I know it isn't what you asked for but hey what the heck.

    For FMJ/JHP try precisiondelta or montana gold.
    Last edited by JaeOne3345; 04-05-2011, 6:01 PM.

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    • #3
      Bill Steele
      Calguns Addict
      • Sep 2010
      • 5028

      The best prices on quality FMJ can be found at Precision Tactical and Montana Gold.



      The go-to choice for shooters, Precision Delta is a leading manufacturer of ammunition and reloading components. All of our products are proudly manufactured in Mississippi


      I think MG are slightly better bullets, but PD includes shipping in their quotes and you only have to buy 1000 at a time which is nice.

      I have bought a lot of once fired brass from Brassman.



      My favorite powder for hot loads (like NATO) is VV-3N37, but it is a little more expensive to buy than most others.

      Another excellent powder is W231. It is not quite as clean as VV above but costs less and loads well to a wide range of speeds.

      The reloading forums here have a great bunch of guys that have forgot more than many will ever learn on the subject. A good place to bookmark as you go along.

      Good luck.
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      • #4
        iareConfusE
        Veteran Member
        • Jan 2010
        • 4464

        Better question for the Ammo & Reloading forum, but whatever. I love Titegroup for 9mm. Burns clean and completely. I use 115gr plated bullets. I stopped buying jacketed bullets because plated ones were a bit cheaper.
        Last edited by iareConfusE; 04-05-2011, 7:52 PM.

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        • #5
          Requiem
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2008
          • 1725

          Thanks for the recommendation to PD, guys. Already heard of montana gold a bit ago as well

          I guess I'll look into W231 and Titegroup for powders.

          A friend of mine said he uses Alliant Bullseye for pistol loads. Anyone used this in their M&P 9mm with good results? He also mentioned "Rex" powder... anyone heard of this or used it?
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          • #6
            IPSICK
            Veteran Member
            • Nov 2005
            • 4259

            I like 147gr FMJ/JHP w/ titegroup. Fairly soft shooting powder for 9mm. Decent amounts of muzzle flash though.
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            • #7
              zfields
              CGN Contributor
              • Aug 2010
              • 13658

              I don't like bullseye for 9mm, prefer win231
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              • #8
                21SF
                Veteran Member
                • Oct 2010
                • 3491

                I use bullseye for 9 and 45.
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                • #9
                  perpetual otter
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Jul 2007
                  • 5093

                  I only load for .45 ACP and 223 but never considered loading 9mm due to the lack of actual savings I calculated 2 years ago. Have things changed? I can still buy factory 9mm for plinking for about $200.
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                  • #10
                    GillaFunk
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 2104

                    Very Good point. 9mm is actually reatively cheap.

                    Considering your gonna be hella busy this summer working 2 jobs, you may just wanna spend that money shooting, and drinking Rootbeer & JackDaniels instead of reloading.

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                    • #11
                      iareConfusE
                      Veteran Member
                      • Jan 2010
                      • 4464

                      Originally posted by ArkinDomino
                      I only load for .45 ACP and 223 but never considered loading 9mm due to the lack of actual savings I calculated 2 years ago. Have things changed? I can still buy factory 9mm for plinking for about $200.
                      Yep, reloading for 9mm doesn't save you very much, but I do it anyways because it helps to pass my excess free time. I think I save about $.02 per round reloading 9mm compared to commercial 9mm sold at a "Deal" price. Most people consider their time to be worth more, especially since I'm loading it on a single stage press. I also like the ability to make lighter loads for new shooters that I bring with me.

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                      • #12
                        Peter W Bush
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                        • Jan 2009
                        • 4727

                        I load for 223, 9mm, 357 sig, 38spl/357 magnum, 30-30, .380, and some others. If i was only loading for 9mm, I wouldn't have started reloading lol. $100 here, $500, there, and soon you're talking about serious money for a reloading setup. Not worth it for just 9mm
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                        • #13
                          G60
                          Veteran Member
                          • Feb 2008
                          • 3989

                          I can get 9mm at 10% off walmart price (about $180 per thousand). I calculated using factory bullets, I would save almost $3 per box of 50 rounds. Cast your own bullets, save even more.
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                          • #14
                            Bill Steele
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Sep 2010
                            • 5028

                            Originally posted by Requiem
                            Thanks for the recommendation to PD, guys. Already heard of montana gold a bit ago as well

                            I guess I'll look into W231 and Titegroup for powders.

                            A friend of mine said he uses Alliant Bullseye for pistol loads. Anyone used this in their M&P 9mm with good results? He also mentioned "Rex" powder... anyone heard of this or used it?
                            I load Bullseye in my 9's occasionally. 4.9grs under a 115gr RN FMJ seated to 1.25" yeilds a pretty peppy round. No experience with Rex.

                            It costs me about $.14 a round to load 9mm with FMJ. I averaged about $10 a box of 50 when I was buying factory loads. That works out to $.20 round for factory. I shoot about 8000 rounds of 9mm a year, so I figure I am saving just under $500 a year in 9mm ammo expense. Guys that cast their own lead bullets save another $300 or so a year at that volume.

                            I also load .357 and .44 Magnuns, the savings in these calibers is really large. Before starting handgun loading I only shot my 9's, all the other guns just sat. Now I shoot them all, more fun.
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                            • #15
                              Voo
                              Senior Member
                              • Feb 2008
                              • 1702

                              You can really use almost any PISTOL powder out there so long as you work up your load properly.. Solo, Bullseye, Titegroup, Univ. Clays, W231, Vhit, etc etc..

                              You're better off asking this in the reloading forum, but if you really wanna save money, cast your own or shoot lead/moly. This is a HUGE savings over buying FMJ or JHP's. Plated is another route, but you can get funky results as sometimes the barrel or powder combination can cause the plating to strip and line your barrel.. I've shot Berry's plated in various weights and they all left crap behind in my barrel that I had a hard time cleaning out.. Not to fault them or the gun, it just wasn't for me is all..

                              I've had no issues with Montana Gold or ZERO FMJ/JHP's... In fact the most accurate load I've ever had is with W231 and ZERO 124 grain JHP's..

                              When I was reloading, I'd use Universal Clays and Bearcreek Moly bullets.. I had a good supplier for the Bearcreeks.. After powder, primer, brass, bullet pricing combined, it came out to less than half the cost of factory WWB per 1000.. I didn't save any money really as I still spent it on components- I just got to shoot twice as much :-)
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