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  • Anchors
    Calguns Addict
    • Apr 2010
    • 5940

    Revolver "magazine"?

    Has anyone ever tried to design a revolver with quick change cylinders that eject with a release button like a magazine?
    I've always heard people love revolvers for the reliability, but hate speed-loaders.
    Maybe you could have extra cylinders that are tight/have a lip to hold the cartridges in during transport.

    If anything it would be a fun range toy.
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    8bitnintendo
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    • Apr 2010
    • 1305

    Originally posted by RyanAnchors
    I've always heard people love revolvers for the reliability, but hate speed-loaders.
    Really? I love mine, but then, I was comparing it to the normal way of reloading a revolver. True, it's not as fast as replacing a magazine in a semi-auto, but they're very easy to use...
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      wu_dot_com
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2010
      • 1362

      Originally posted by RyanAnchors
      Has anyone ever tried to design a revolver with quick change cylinders that eject with a release button like a magazine?
      I've always heard people love revolvers for the reliability, but hate speed-loaders.
      Maybe you could have extra cylinders that are tight/have a lip to hold the cartridges in during transport.

      If anything it would be a fun range toy.
      back in the cap and ball days, cavalry in the civil war used to carry extra cylinders to increase their fire power. but in todays world, it have no practical purpose. an interchangeable cylinder is nether high cap (.357 avg 6-8 rds) or light (solid cylinders vs metal sheet stamping).

      Remington 1858 or colt army 1860 are two good examples.

      also, the timing of the cylinders may wear out faster due to high usage under conventional revolver timing and locking methods.

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        sniper5
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2007
        • 723

        I would think that moon clips would be about as close as you could get. If you watch people who are good with them (Miculek), they are impressively fast.
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        • #5
          shooting4life
          Calguns Addict
          • Jan 2009
          • 5768

          It's called a moon clip

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            Anchors
            Calguns Addict
            • Apr 2010
            • 5940

            Yeah, but can you carry the moon clips loaded without them getting out of shape/falling out? Just curious, I've never used them.

            Originally posted by wu_dot_com
            back in the cap and ball days, cavalry in the civil war used to carry extra cylinders to increase their fire power. but in todays world, it have no practical purpose. an interchangeable cylinder is nether high cap (.357 avg 6-8 rds) or light (solid cylinders vs metal sheet stamping).

            Remington 1858 or colt army 1860 are two good examples.

            also, the timing of the cylinders may wear out faster due to high usage under conventional revolver timing and locking methods.
            Good points haha.
            I guess revolvers are just best for self-defense situations (since you probably won't need more than 6-8 rounds) and autos are almost required for police/military work.
            That said, I prefer autos for SD myself.

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              wu_dot_com
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2010
              • 1362

              for defensive purpose, i personally would choose a revolver over semi auto.

              a train person can fan a SAA faster than semi auto.

              ammo quality is not a factor in the reliability. even if you reload, you cannot guarantee that you bullet will cycle 100% of the time in a well maintain semi auto. a well maintain revolver will cycle 100% of the time.

              easier to operate, typical revolvers have no safety. they go bang when you pull the trigger just like a glock. it don't need trigger safety, it dont have slide release.

              its more tolerable to sand, dust, mud, ice, water, or any thing you can throw at it. it have no sliding parts to bind.

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                DocSkinner
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2005
                • 1225

                While I agree revolvers have sum great qualities, the training necessary to rapidly shoot a SAA accurately (Hint - it ain't by 'fanning' it) the person could put that training to exceed that speed WITH ACCURACY with a good auto. Too many movies...

                Try going to a cowboy action shooting competition - you will be amazed at how fast they can go accurately, and how none of them "fan" their gun - unless its to cool it off afterward.


                Originally posted by wu_dot_com
                for defensive purpose, i personally would choose a revolver over semi auto.

                a train person can fan a SAA faster than semi auto.

                ammo quality is not a factor in the reliability. even if you reload, you cannot guarantee that you bullet will cycle 100% of the time in a well maintain semi auto. a well maintain revolver will cycle 100% of the time.

                easier to operate, typical revolvers have no safety. they go bang when you pull the trigger just like a glock. it don't need trigger safety, it dont have slide release.

                its more tolerable to sand, dust, mud, ice, water, or any thing you can throw at it. it have no sliding parts to bind.
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                  DocSkinner
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2005
                  • 1225

                  And I think moon clips would probably be as fast as replacement cylinders, and far lighter!

                  Are there different rounds moon clips don't work for?
                  Been dieing to try a revolver with them, but no luck so far!
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                  but by our institutions, great is our sin."
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                    ojisan
                    Agent 86
                    CGN Contributor
                    • Apr 2008
                    • 11763

                    Miculek with a revolver reload using moon clips:

                    Originally posted by Citadelgrad87
                    I don't really care, I just like to argue.

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                    • #11
                      Anchors
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 5940

                      ^Damn that was quick!

                      Originally posted by wu_dot_com
                      for defensive purpose, i personally would choose a revolver over semi auto.

                      ammo quality is not a factor in the reliability. even if you reload, you cannot guarantee that you bullet will cycle 100% of the time in a well maintain semi auto. a well maintain revolver will cycle 100% of the time.
                      easier to operate, typical revolvers have no safety. they go bang when you pull the trigger just like a glock. it don't need trigger safety, it dont have slide release.
                      its more tolerable to sand, dust, mud, ice, water, or any thing you can throw at it. it have no sliding parts to bind.
                      That is what my dad has always said. He only carries/uses .38 revolvers for SD.
                      But I think a lot of that has to do with his mentality.
                      He only owns guns for SD and isn't a "gun guy" at all.
                      So for him, the simpler, the better.

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                        QuarterBoreGunner
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                        • Oct 2005
                        • 9389

                        You've reinvented the Korth Revolver
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                        • #13
                          XDRoX
                          Veteran Member
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 4420

                          Originally posted by wu_dot_com

                          ammo quality is not a factor in the reliability. even if you reload, you cannot guarantee that you bullet will cycle 100% of the time in a well maintain semi auto. a well maintain revolver will cycle 100% of the time.

                          easier to operate, typical revolvers have no safety. they go bang when you pull the trigger just like a glock. it don't need trigger safety, it dont have slide release.

                          its more tolerable to sand, dust, mud, ice, water, or any thing you can throw at it. it have no sliding parts to bind.
                          Just a difference of opinion, but if I had to grab a gun from the safe to go to war with imthink I'd grab a Glock before a revolver. I sort of think you can get an auto to be just as reliable as a revolver especially if you reload.
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                            wu_dot_com
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2010
                            • 1362

                            Originally posted by DocSkinner
                            While I agree revolvers have sum great qualities, the training necessary to rapidly shoot a SAA accurately (Hint - it ain't by 'fanning' it) the person could put that training to exceed that speed WITH ACCURACY with a good auto. Too many movies...

                            Try going to a cowboy action shooting competition - you will be amazed at how fast they can go accurately, and how none of them "fan" their gun - unless its to cool it off afterward.
                            i know, that lead dispenser guy is pretty damn good.

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                              not-fishing
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 2270

                              Originally posted by XDRoX
                              Just a difference of opinion, but if I had to grab a gun from the safe to go to war with imthink I'd grab a Glock before a revolver. I sort of think you can get an auto to be just as reliable as a revolver especially if you reload.
                              My SHTF handgun is my 625 JM in 45acp with 40 moon clips and a couple of thousand reloads, store bought rounds in all sorts of configurations.

                              My revolver doesn't care about bullet type, powder charges, hardness of primers, weak hand, limp wrist or two fingers.

                              I pull the trigger, it goes bang and when I pull the trigger again it goes bang again.

                              And I need it that way because I'm easily confused.
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