I drank the cool aid

[Blackhawk556]

Don't want your gun taken away???? Lol, sorry but that has got to be the dumbest thing I've read in the last week or two :-). I take it you don't own any OLL receivers right? Have many people have bought gen4 guns, xdm, and so on with no visits or trouble from the DOJ?

[Voo]

You are configuring it into the configuration that wasnt legal to buy. Thats like configuring an ar-15 with bullet button into an ar with mag release. Think about it...

There's nothing similar about it. Read the laws on OLL's and their configurations. Seriously.. if people are doing this and the DOJ is openly allowing it, then show exactly where/how it's breaking a law..

This is the same type of BS that could be heard when the whole OLL AR thing went down a few years ago.. Same disbelief but some 20,000+ AR lowers later.. Here we are..

Do your own research and stop spreading your own version of how things work.. You sound like a 10 yr old with your disbeliefs.

[SupportGeek]

Can you cite the PC that says it isn't? Show me a law that says it's legal to poop at your house, or drink a coke. Laws tell us only what we can't do, not what we can.




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Whoa doggy, back down. Im on your side.

I was asking evolixsurf to cite the PC's that make him think its illegal to buy a pistol in single shot, then modify it back to factory stock specs.
He is under the impression that this is illegal to do, or possess said pistol after bringing back to stock, and he claimed his aprehension was due to some PC, I wanted to know which ones caused him concerns.

I wasn't asking him to tell me how single shot exemption is legal or something, I know based on everything Ive read here that it is perfectly fine to do, and I plan on taking advantage of it myself.

Im going to assume you either misunderstood my post because you read it on your phone, or you have something personal against me, I assume the former?

[Baconator]

Whoa doggy, back down. Im on your side.

I was asking evolixsurf to cite the PC's that make him think its illegal to buy a pistol in single shot, then modify it back to factory stock specs.
He is under the impression that this is illegal to do, or possess said pistol after bringing back to stock, and he claimed his aprehension was due to some PC, I wanted to know which ones caused him concerns.

I wasn't asking him to tell me how single shot exemption is legal or something, I know based on everything Ive read here that it is perfectly fine to do, and I plan on taking advantage of it myself.

Im going to assume you either misunderstood my post because you read it on your phone, or you have something personal against me, I assume the former?

I did read it on my phone, sorry bout that. Been real annoyed today for some reason. Sorry again.

[Justintoxicated]

I won't buy one because I don't believe in the extra cost associated with converting it back. I think it's wrong for people to profit on the BS roster, and loop holes. They do to do away with that thing completely, it's pretty damn pointless when all it takes is extra money to purchase something not on it.

[SixPointEight]

It doesn't cost more to convert it back. YOu basically pay a small surcharge to rent their barrel and fixed mag. You get your stock parts when you buy it.

[NorCal Einstein]

Oh ****. I need that threaded barrel and extension from Valkyrie ASAP so I can start hand feeding my M&P this weekend at the range, 1 round at a time...

[Justintoxicated]

It doesn't cost more to convert it back. YOu basically pay a small surcharge to rent their barrel and fixed mag. You get your stock parts when you buy it.

Ok now your talking, now where is the place to do this in SoCal? if that is the case I would do it just to toss the roster back in their face.

[SixPointEight]

I'm not in socal, so I'll have to let someone else answer

[ChrisTKHarris]

I won't buy one because I don't believe in the extra cost associated with converting it back. I think it's wrong for people to profit on the BS roster, and loop holes. They do to do away with that thing completely, it's pretty damn pointless when all it takes is extra money to purchase something not on it.

My Gen4 was $575 + tax/DROS. For me the extra $75 is worth it.

[ChrisTKHarris]

Ok now your talking, now where is the place to do this in SoCal? if that is the case I would do it just to toss the roster back in their face.

Parallax Tactical in the Sorrento Valley area.

[ELEVENTH HOUR]

I Hear the Best Kool Aid is the 19?

[bwiese]

im about to drink the cool aid too. sigh... Going to get a gen 3 though because I dont need my guns taken away in the future.

Idiotic FUD.

Nobody will take your Gen4 Glock away if it was transferred properly as an exempt single-shot, or you acquired via another legit Roster-exempt path (PPT, interstate intrafamily exemption).

[bwiese]

Yea, to dros a single shot exempt is fine. The problem is when you change it back to a completely different configuration right after you buy it.

There is no law changing the nature of a gun to any other legal format.

Changing 9mm to 40 to 357sig, putting a long slide on instead of a short slide, etc.

The Calguns Foundation will back anyone that has issues on this that has followed proper procedures.

Even DOJ grudgingly acknowledges it's perfectly legal - otherwise,CA FFLs doing this would be shut down already. [They busted one FFL in central valley for illegally transferring a non-Rostered handgun to himself - he was too stupid to go thru the single-shot pistol/single-action revolver procedure and took the 'easy' way out.]

And continue to use it in that different configuration. It might be legal to purchase the gun that way, but I just cant see it being legal(based on various PC's) when you purposely change it completely.

Read 12125PC and 12132-12133PC.

Not only that, the former Deputy AG (Firearms) for Calif DOJ has even stated, in formal written communication, that it's entire legal to modify a gun out of Rostered status once owned: she acknowledges our one-armed plaintiff in the CGF Pena v. Cid "Roster" case can't buy a non-Rostered left-handed Glock, but that individual can buy the Rostered gun and then modify it to lefthanded form. This modifcation allowance applies to any other gun characteristic that does not cause the gun to enter into another illegal status (AW, SBR, smoothbore, chambering a shotgun shell, etc.)

So you're wrong. Period. End of story. You can hold your own beliefs, but don't try to scare others thru your FUD.

This territory has all been well thought out. We'd all be in jail now otherwise

[bwiese]

You are configuring it into the configuration that wasnt legal to buy. Thats like configuring an ar-15 with bullet button into an ar with mag release. Think about it...

Wrong. Think about it. RTFL.

The Roster only gates the gun at the time of purchase. It does not control status after acqusition.

You go think about it, sonny.