Best shooting micro pistol

[Blue Ridge Reef]

I'm in the market for a pocket pistol and have been enjoying the threads on the LCP/LC9/PM9, etc. and appreciate everyone's feedback on these guns. If money were no object (though it always is), what do you guys feel is the best shooting mouse gun made? By shooting, I mean a gun you can reasonably train with and not need gloves! I understand that with a small size comes less comfort but the G26/SR9c/P99c/etc. are simply too big for this conversation. For discussion purposes, let's keep this to pistols which are front pocket concealable. I'd love to hear opinions on Rohrbaugh, Seecamp and some of the less commonly seen guns also. Caliber is secondary to shoot-ability though I'd prefer nothing smaller than a .32. Personal experience, photos, and comparisons especially appreciated.

[rudigan]

I'm in the market for a pocket pistol and have been enjoying the threads on the LCP/LC9/PM9, etc. and appreciate everyone's feedback on these guns. If money were no object (though it always is), what do you guys feel is the best shooting mouse gun made? By shooting, I mean a gun you can reasonably train with and not need gloves! I understand that with a small size comes less comfort but the G26/SR9c/P99c/etc. are simply too big for this conversation. For discussion purposes, let's keep this to pistols which are front pocket concealable. I'd love to hear opinions on Rohrbaugh, Seecamp and some of the less commonly seen guns also. Caliber is secondary to shoot-ability though I'd prefer nothing smaller than a .32. Personal experience, photos, and comparisons especially appreciated.

Micro? Kahr P380. Mine had issues at first, Kahr fixed it, great pocket gun, great shooter, quite accurate for such a wee thing. Loaded weight is 13.5 oz. Buff Bore +p (supposedly) seem to be best/most punch SD round. Love mine, one of my CCW guns. If you have fairly large hands you may have to adjust your grip. Don't go with the Pearce mag Extension as mine both broke (meaning spring flew, etc.) as did another calccw.com member.

[theskunk]

My two choices would be a Seecamp or a S & W airweight.

Justs depends how concielable you need to be. There are probably other great guns, but I don't like plastic. The Roughbar is $1300.

The Seecamp or Airweight is under $500

[Blue Ridge Reef]

I've handled a Rohrbaugh and wasn't impressed knowing the price tag. It was tiny, though. It just didn't feel like a thousand dollar pistol to me. I'm sure there's more to it than met the eye, and I did not get to shoot it. Also, anything that small in 9mm would seem to be painful to shoot more than a few mags through. The P380 is leading the pack, now even more so after Rudigan's review and seeing Hickock nailing distant steel targets with one. I just hate buyer's remorse, and want to make sure I'm exploring all my options.

[Oceanbob]

Front pocket gun

Would be a SEECAMP .32

About $700 to 900$ depending on where you shop.



I just sold two on the Cal Guns Classifieds (New in Box) for $700 each.

Front pocket only. If you choose a wheel gun then you're in GLOCK 26 territory.

Then you're talking about a back pocket weapon. A wheel gun is too fat for the front pocket; for the back pocket something FLATER than a wheel gun is my choice.

For that, a GLOCK 26 does the job.(back pocket or coat pocket)

[Blue Ridge Reef]

I'll say this much about Seecamp, they have a fantastic website and message board. Any pistol I wanted to see next to a Seecamp, they had posted. I've never seen one for sale at a LGS or online retailer, though. With one of those Meco pocket holsters, that little thing would be a breeze to carry. Availability and aftermarket accessories might prove difficult, that's my biggest concern.

[luckygunner]

I haven't shot a Rohrbaugh yet so I don't have any info on that particular firearm. The price tag is just too much for me to overcome.

I have shot or own the PM9, LCP, LC9, PF9, PF-11and S&W 642. As far as shooting copious amounts of ammo through them I would choose the PM9. The recoil is easier to handle but the pistol is still small enough to pocket carry with the right holster.

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[nazgulnarsil]

wait for the cm9? huge value considering how good the pm9 is.

[jackandblood]

I'm in the market for a pocket pistol and have been enjoying the threads on the LCP/LC9/PM9, etc. and appreciate everyone's feedback on these guns. If money were no object (though it always is), what do you guys feel is the best shooting mouse gun made? By shooting, I mean a gun you can reasonably train with and not need gloves! I understand that with a small size comes less comfort but the G26/SR9c/P99c/etc. are simply too big for this conversation. For discussion purposes, let's keep this to pistols which are front pocket concealable. I'd love to hear opinions on Rohrbaugh, Seecamp and some of the less commonly seen guns also. Caliber is secondary to shoot-ability though I'd prefer nothing smaller than a .32. Personal experience, photos, and comparisons especially appreciated.

I like the Charter arms 44 spl. 21 oz and a 2.5" barrel makes it top snubbie in my opinion. 44 spl. ammo to practice with may be not be cheap.

[maxicon]

I have a handful of small and light guns, and my favorite is the PM9 by far. It's the best combo of manageable recoil, good sights and accuracy, and lightness.

Of the next two contenders I have, my P3AT is just too painful to shoot enough to practice effectively with, has terrible sights, and isn't particularly accurate. My S&W 642 is too bulky due to the cylinder, and the heavy DAO trigger pull reduces accuracy for me.

[rudigan]

On the sub-subject of front pocket/thickness of gun;
I carry my 340PD a lot in front pocket in a Uncle Mikes#3, speed strip in other pocket, but due to it's girth only certain shorts or pants allow me to do that.

The P380 carrys much better in smaller/tighter pockets. One of the holsters I use for it is a Hunter leather pocket holster, it has a leather flap to cover any printing and works very well in a back pocket, just harder/slower to draw. The J frames are more than twice as wide as the P380.

[brianm767]

I have a Ruger LCP and Kahr P380, have only put 12 rounds through LCP and 44 through P380, I am more accurate with LCP, LCP is lighter and thinner, I like the full grip for my hand on the P380, but other than that I don't think the P380 is worth the price over a LCP for it's intended purpose. If money is no concern, then I'd take the P380 just because I can grip it with a full grip, LCP one finger is off the gun.

Oh and LCP kicks way more than the P380

I also have a Kahr PM9, little heavy for my pocket, but many love it as a pocket gun, it's perfect, small, pocketable, 9MM round, it's the way to go.

A few pics for size comparisons,

Ruger LCP, Kahr P380, Kahr PM9, S&W M&P40C

[holymolar]

If you are near San Diego, PM me. I know someone who wants to sell
an early model Seecamp 32 with three magazines w/ extensions
and two pocket holsters for $760 plus fees.

[JeffCinSac]

OP specifically asked about shootability. Take a look at a Beretta Tomcat .32. It's a marginal caliber and large for it's caliber (much larger than a Seecamp or Guardian), but is a sweet shooter possibly because of it. Very accurate and DA/SA trigger with negligible recoil makes for very fast follow-up shots.

[CalNRA]

OP specifically asked about shootability. Take a look at a Beretta Tomcat .32. It's a marginal caliber and large for it's caliber (much larger than a Seecamp or Guardian), but is a sweet shooter possibly because of it. Very accurate and DA/SA trigger with negligible recoil makes for very fast follow-up shots.

yep.

The Tomcat is a very underated gun. It's great for people with larger than average hands, and it shoots like a small 92. Plus its frame mounted safety enables many methods to carry, such as DA with safety off, DA with safety, or SA with safety.

Not as concealable as say a Seecamp(which is a great gun as well) but much more enjoyable to shoot(Seecamp, NAA, et al have a one finger grip).