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  • KumanK
    Junior Member
    • Jan 2011
    • 48

    Taurus PT1911

    I want to buy a Taurus Pt1911 but it has been brought to my attention by a fellow CGN member that it recently dropped off the roster... So what will I have to do to get my hands on one? Someone told me to utilize the single shot exemption but I have no idea what that is? SO someone please fill me in, I heard even if a gun drops off the roster it doesnt necessarily make it illegal here.
  • #2
    Quiet
    retired Goon
    • Mar 2007
    • 30242

    The CA DOJ approved list for handgun sales, shows what handguns a CA FFL dealer can legally transfer to a non-exempt person. The list does determine what handguns are CA legal, just which handguns can be transfered by a CA FFL dealer.

    The Taurus PT1911 was never on the approved list.

    While out-of-state, a Taurus PT1911 can be modified into a single-shot pistol with a 6" barrel. In that configuration, it would be exempt from the approved list. After the single-shot pistol is 4473/DROS'd + 10 day wait, you can legally modify the pistol into any configuration that does not make it into a prohibited weapon (assault weapon, SBR, SBS, etc).




    IMO...
    In terms of quality, reliability, accuracy...
    (Armscor) Rock Island Armory 1911 Tactical > Taurus PT1911
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    • #3
      jackandblood
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2010
      • 1125

      I think if you do a PTP on a used one its just like anything else. If new, as i understand it its some sort of modified magazine made to only allow one rd inserted. So it becomes like those single shot breech loading specialty almost curio-ish and exempt from roster. tricky part is either getting the outside CA FFL that will do that service or finding an FFL in CA that has them in stock and configured to Single shot exemption. After you get it, you gotta follow dem' 10 rds mags like any other rostered handgun. Or you can be the envy of your range and hang onto the super cool one shot "sled" magazine so you look tactical with constant frantic hand movement in reloading.
      Dont go against the grain if you cant handle it - Wu Tang

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      • #4
        KumanK
        Junior Member
        • Jan 2011
        • 48

        thanks for the info guys it was kind of a match up between the PT1911 and the RIA 1911 match, so it looks as though the RIA will be easier to get anyhow.

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        • #5
          ale014
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2010
          • 527

          this might help you understand the single shot exemption



          This should help you get the ball rolling on what to do



          call around see who you can buy from and do the conversion for you. Essentially what you are doing is using these guys as middlemen, meaning you buy it from someplace online, ship it to a FFL dealer that converts it, then from there, the shop ships it to your own FFL.

          You get the pistol do all the paperwork, wait, and then convert back.
          -my brother once wrote to me " In the Marine Corps there is a saying,'The more you sweat in peace time the less you bleed in war'..."-


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          • #6
            ale014
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2010
            • 527

            Originally posted by jackandblood
            I think if you do a PTP on a used one its just like anything else. If new, as i understand it its some sort of modified magazine made to only allow one rd inserted. So it becomes like those single shot breech loading specialty almost curio-ish and exempt from roster. tricky part is either getting the outside CA FFL that will do that service or finding an FFL in CA that has them in stock and configured to Single shot exemption. After you get it, you gotta follow dem' 10 rds mags like any other rostered handgun. Or you can be the envy of your range and hang onto the super cool one shot "sled" magazine so you look tactical with constant frantic hand movement in reloading.
            follow this too =]
            -my brother once wrote to me " In the Marine Corps there is a saying,'The more you sweat in peace time the less you bleed in war'..."-


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            • #7
              KumanK
              Junior Member
              • Jan 2011
              • 48

              Originally posted by ale014
              this might help you understand the single shot exemption



              This should help you get the ball rolling on what to do



              call around see who you can buy from and do the conversion for you. Essentially what you are doing is using these guys as middlemen, meaning you buy it from someplace online, ship it to a FFL dealer that converts it, then from there, the shop ships it to your own FFL.

              You get the pistol do all the paperwork, wait, and then convert back.
              Thank you that is good info, ill start ,making some calls tomorrow. Also That is a damn good quote in your signature and we do use quite frequently in the Marine Corps.

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              • #8
                Can't buy anything here
                Senior Member
                • May 2006
                • 797

                Originally posted by KumanK
                I want to buy a Taurus Pt1911 but it has been brought to my attention by a fellow CGN member that it recently dropped off the roster... So what will I have to do to get my hands on one? Someone told me to utilize the single shot exemption but I have no idea what that is? SO someone please fill me in, I heard even if a gun drops off the roster it doesnt necessarily make it illegal here.
                Nice gun...decent shooter...but why go to all that trouble with a plethora of good shooting 1911s out there?...some even in the PT price range.
                3 day waiting period???? but I'm mad now!!!!!!

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                • #9
                  KumanK
                  Junior Member
                  • Jan 2011
                  • 48

                  Originally posted by Can't buy anything here
                  Nice gun...decent shooter...but why go to all that trouble with a plethora of good shooting 1911s out there?...some even in the PT price range.
                  What would you recommend that is on the roster and in the same price range in a .45 ACP

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                  • #11
                    killabyte
                    Junior Member
                    • Jan 2011
                    • 24

                    Is there a particular reason you want the Taurus? My understanding of the Taurus is that it has some non standard parts that doesn't allow it to accept modifications like many of the .22 conversions.

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                    • #12
                      KumanK
                      Junior Member
                      • Jan 2011
                      • 48

                      Originally posted by killabyte
                      Is there a particular reason you want the Taurus? My understanding of the Taurus is that it has some non standard parts that doesn't allow it to accept modifications like many of the .22 conversions.

                      Honestly Im not attached to it at all I have a buddy who had one and said he loved it, I've never shot a 1911 but I love the look and style and just the overall history of them... Im a wheel gun guy for the most part I have owned some 9mm too and some small .22 and .32 so im looking for the next addition to my collection.

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                      • #13
                        KumanK
                        Junior Member
                        • Jan 2011
                        • 48

                        Originally posted by Can't buy anything here
                        Have you looked at Armscor? Very reasonably priced .45s.

                        http://www.google.com/products/catal...wBQ#ps-sellers
                        Im liking this one ALOT and it says its Match... do you know if this one is on the roster or does it require single shot?

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                        • #14
                          Quiet
                          retired Goon
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 30242

                          Originally posted by KumanK
                          Im liking this one ALOT and it says its Match... do you know if this one is on the roster or does it require single shot?
                          It's on the approved list.



                          RIA M1911-A1 FS Match (Blue) / Steel Pistol 5" .45 ACP 11/29/2011
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                          • #15
                            SkyMag68
                            Member
                            • Jul 2006
                            • 499

                            dammit, it not on approved list...I was goin to put it on my wish list.

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