To people who know Berettas

[Generator]

I don't know too much about Berettas other than they fit my hand well.
I'm thinking of buying a 92A1 (with rail) from a friend of mine.

All questions are about the 9mm, not the .40.
What is difference between 92A1 and the M9A1?
How is the build quality of the 92A1?
Besides the rail, is there a difference the 92FS and 92A1?
Does the 92FS (American or Italian) non-rail retain value better? (not that this is important, just curious)

Anything else you could tell me about the 92 family would be great.

Thanks the help

[gumby]

Check with "berettaforum.net", they can answer all your questions. I have the centurion because it also fits my hand perfectly.

[Munk]

I don't know too much about Berettas other than they fit my hand well.
I'm thinking of buying a 92A1 (with rail) from a friend of mine.

All questions are about the 9mm, not the .40.
What is difference between 92A1 and the M9A1?
How is the build quality of the 92A1?
Besides the rail, is there a difference the 92FS and 92A1?
Does the 92FS (American or Italian) non-rail retain value better? (not that this is important, just curious)

Anything else you could tell me about the 92 family would be great.

Thanks the help

92 means it's a 9mm; 96 means it's the 40.s&w. Same frames, different slide assemblies. Which means you can swap slides between the 2 and have a functioanlly identical gun.

The 92A1 is beretta's newest offering, and is mechanically different from previous iterations of the 92 platform. It uses some of the internals from their 90-two design and the outward appearance of the 92FS. The M9 is just the military designation of the normal 92FS, and has minor cosmetic differences.

The build quality on all Berettas that i'm aware of is quite good.

Some people like their italian made guns better. There've been a few reports of finish differences and some tolerances being slackened a bit. As a result, some people pay a premium to secure themselves an italian made beretta.

The new 92A1 and 96A1 models will NOT be on the CA roster. Ever. Getting them requires you to either be a Roster-Exempt individual, or to get them via face-to-face PPT, or through the single-shot exemption. If your friend already has the gun legally, and he's here in CA with you and is going to PPT it to you, then I suggest you get yourself the 92a1.

[rogervzv]

The new 92A1 and 96A1 models will NOT be on the CA roster. Ever. Getting them requires you to either be a Roster-Exempt individual, or to get them via face-to-face PPT, or through the single-shot exemption. If your friend already has the gun legally, and he's here in CA with you and is going to PPT it to you, then I suggest you get yourself the 92a1.

I absolutely did not know this about the 92A1 not making the roster/not going to make the roster. Why not?

You can buy a very nice high-quality aftermarket attachable rail from Tacrail for the 92FS, by the way.

[Generator]

Good to know. Thanks for the info.

Yes, my friend is a LA LEO and has it in his possession. I would be doing a PTP.

I guess i'm buying a 92A1

92 means it's a 9mm; 96 means it's the 40.s&w. Same frames, different slide assemblies. Which means you can swap slides between the 2 and have a functioanlly identical gun.

The 92A1 is beretta's newest offering, and is mechanically different from previous iterations of the 92 platform. It uses some of the internals from their 90-two design and the outward appearance of the 92FS. The M9 is just the military designation of the normal 92FS, and has minor cosmetic differences.

The build quality on all Berettas that i'm aware of is quite good.

Some people like their italian made guns better. There've been a few reports of finish differences and some tolerances being slackened a bit. As a result, some people pay a premium to secure themselves an italian made beretta.

The new 92A1 and 96A1 models will NOT be on the CA roster. Ever. Getting them requires you to either be a Roster-Exempt individual, or to get them via face-to-face PPT, or through the single-shot exemption. If your friend already has the gun legally, and he's here in CA with you and is going to PPT it to you, then I suggest you get yourself the 92a1.

[21SF]

F... new york, nice pistol tho.

[Munk]

I absolutely did not know this about the 92A1 not making the roster/not going to make the roster. Why not?

You can buy a very nice high-quality aftermarket attachable rail from Tacrail for the 92FS, by the way.

No loaded chamber indicator or mag disconnect. It's also mechanically different enough that it's not a minor update or variant, so it can't take advantage of the grandfathered status of previous 92s.

Beretta has expressed that they have NO intention of making a CA specific variant just to appease the roster. It is not now, nor will it ever be on the roster as the current laws stand.

[Sturnovik]

I don't know too much about Berettas other than they fit my hand well.
I'm thinking of buying a 92A1 (with rail) from a friend of mine.

All questions are about the 9mm, not the .40.
What is difference between 92A1 and the M9A1?
How is the build quality of the 92A1?
Besides the rail, is there a difference the 92FS and 92A1?
Does the 92FS (American or Italian) non-rail retain value better? (not that this is important, just curious)

Anything else you could tell me about the 92 family would be great.

Thanks the help

I like the look and feel without a rail on a pistol but its a feature that really is hard to argue against. They are very useful and also give the pistol some more weigh which when shooting sometimes can be nice to keep it down more.

Frankly I like both rail and non railed ones. If you already have a gun that has a rail and its your HD gun, no need to get this one with a rail IMO.

[Navyguy0023]

The 92A1 is pretty much a new gun with old gun looks, built off the 90 two and the 92FS. They included a new internal buffer, and a replaceable dovetail front sight. Not sure how exciting the buffer is, but 92 has needed a dovetail front sight for a long time!

[Munk]

The 92A1 is pretty much a new gun with old gun looks, built off the 90 two and the 92FS. They included a new internal buffer, and a replaceable dovetail front sight. Not sure how exciting the buffer is, but 92 has needed a dovetail front sight for a long time!

buffer is only on the 96 by default. (AFAIK)

Dovetail has been available on some of the alternate models for a while.

[Navyguy0023]

buffer is only on the 96 by default. (AFAIK)

Dovetail has been available on some of the alternate models for a while.

Humm I thought the recoil buffer was on both, but I've been known to be wrong.

Here is the info direct from Beretta USA.

http://www.berettausa.com/products/model-92a1/

New for 2010, the Model 92A1 and 96A1 represent Beretta’s evolution of the world famous 92FS pistol.
Combining the best elements of the 92FS and the 90-Two,these pistols feature:
A. Higher capacity magazines: 17 rounds in 9mm. Completely interchangeable with other 92 family magazines. THREE magazines included per pistol.
B. Removable front sight: Allows the user to easily replace a damaged sight or replace it with an accessory sight.
C. Accessory rail: The frame of the A1’s have an integral MIL-STD-1913 rail for rapid attachment of tactical lights and laser aiming devices.
D. Internal recoil buffer: Increases service life by reducing stress on the receiver created by the more powerful .40 S&W caliber ammunition.
E. Captive recoil spring assembly: The single-piece design simplifies the assembly and disassembly process and minimizes the possibility of spring loss.
F. Rounded trigger guard: Updated styling to conform with current pistol gripping practices.

[Call_me_Tom]

The buffer is on both but it was originally intended for the .40 S&W. They went this route to do away with the large Brigadier slide. The Brigadier slide was meant to help reduce the recoil and lighten the load off of the frame when the pistol goes in battery.

The only thing that I don't like about the 92/96A1 is the rounded trigger guard. I guess I'm partial to the squared trigger guard from shooting M9's, my 92FS and my 96FS Vertec.

[Sturnovik]

The buffer is on both but it was originally intended for the .40 S&W. They went this route to do away with the large Brigadier slide. The Brigadier slide was meant to help reduce the recoil and lighten the load off of the frame when the pistol goes in battery.

The only thing that I don't like about the 92/96A1 is the rounded trigger guard. I guess I'm partial to the squared trigger guard from shooting M9's, my 92FS and my 96FS Vertec.

I agree. I like the squared guard more. I sometimes use my index finger on it too, usually do that with my Sigs and Glocks, sometimes I dont, just depends on how I'm shooting.