Carry gun to range in car

[rcserg]

I'm trying to figure out if I can transport my gun inside its case unloaded without any loaded mags inside my locked trunk while driving to the range or does the case itself have to be locked as well.

[alexf2k9]

i'm pretty sure as long as its in the trunk your ok

[Brandon04GT]

The gun is supposed to be transported in a "locked container".....a trunk is considered a locked container

[MRpink]

That's fine, the issue is hand carrying it from your house to the car or car to range.

[CSACANNONEER]

Why are you worried about transporting it without loaded mags in the same case? It's perfectly legal to do that.

[hayman]

Someone please educate me about all this gun locking stuff. I am confused. Why would you need to have an unloaded gun locked up in anything? I thought the rule was ammo seperate from firearm, period. Firearm up front, ammo in trunk. Done. Unless of course you have a permit, then load and carry on person. And if you like, load and place a back up large caliber weapon incase things go hairpod. That's my daily routine.

[Cokebottle]

I'm trying to figure out if I can transport my gun inside its case unloaded without any loaded mags inside my locked trunk while driving to the range or does the case itself have to be locked as well.

Legal.

Also legal:

Unloaded in it's case in a locked trunk with loaded magazines in the same case (but not in the gun)

Unloaded in a locked case in the passenger compartment with the ammo and loaded magazines on the seat next to it.

Unloaded in a locked case in the passenger compartment with the ammo and loaded magazines in the case next to it (but not in the gun).

Legal but not recommended:
More than 1000ft away from a K-12 school...
Unloaded, plain view. Loaded or unloaded magazines on the seat next to it.

[raygunner]

Someone please educate me about all this gun locking stuff. I am confused. Why would you need to have an unloaded gun locked up in anything? I thought the rule was ammo seperate from firearm, period. Firearm up front, ammo in trunk. Done. Unless of course you have a permit, then load and carry on person. And if you like, load and place a back up large caliber weapon incase things go hairpod. That's my daily routine.

Hayman is correct; the gun has to be unloaded, and in a different part of the vehicle than the UNLOADED mags, and ammo. Unloaded mags and ammo can be in one bag, in the trunk. Gun in another bag/case, in the back seat.
If it's an SUV, gun in back seat, mags/ammo in the rear. That's what I've been told by a Calif LEO, in a training class.

[Zorrm]

This should answer all your questions:

http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/index.php/Transporting

[Cokebottle]

Someone please educate me about all this gun locking stuff. I am confused. Why would you need to have an unloaded gun locked up in anything? I thought the rule was ammo seperate from firearm, period. Firearm up front, ammo in trunk. Done. Unless of course you have a permit, then load and carry on person. And if you like, load and place a back up large caliber weapon incase things go hairpod. That's my daily routine.

With some exceptions, it is illegal to carry a concealed weapon without a permit.
With some exceptions, it is illegal to carry a loaded weapon without a permit.
Locked container negates "concealed"

No restrictions on the transportation of ammo other than restrictions against possession on school grounds and a few other sensitive places.


Read PC 12025, 12026, and 12031

http://law.onecle.com/california/penal/12025.html

http://law.onecle.com/california/penal/12025.5.html

http://law.onecle.com/california/penal/12026.html

http://law.onecle.com/california/penal/12026.1.html

http://law.onecle.com/california/penal/12026.2.html

http://law.onecle.com/california/penal/12031.html

http://law.onecle.com/california/penal/12031.1.html

and 626.9:

http://law.onecle.com/california/penal/626.9.html

[erik_26]

A pistol needs to be in locked container while being transport in a car.

Your pistol can be in an unlocked case, or out of a case if it is in the trunk. A trunk is considered to be a locked container. As long as there is no access to the trunk through the back seat.

A fire arm is only 'loaded' when there is a loaded magazine in the mag-well of the gun. Or there is an unexpended round in the chamber.

It is perfectly legal to have ammo scattered about all over your car (not recommended, but legal). It is perfectly legal to have a loaded magazine in the same locked container as the gun. As long as it is not in the mag-well of the gun.

You can have a pistol on the front passenger seat with a loaded magazine right next to it. It is perfectly legal because it is not concealed. Don't expect any LEO to know any of this.

However, all firearms need to be in a locked container when in a traveling through a restricted area (like within 1000' of a school).

It is extremely imperative that you read and reread and reread the law (federal, state and local). Consult a lawyer in regards to any questions. Know all your rights.

Keep a copy of Penal Codes and highlight those related to your needs. Do not be afraid to politely ask a LEO to consult their supervisor if they are unaware of material you are presenting.

I would suggest buying a decent lockable container to transport your firearm and ammunition in. Keep it locked all the time. Then you don't have to worry about it. If a LEO inquires as to what is in the container.... your response should always be 'I have nothing illegal'.

Good luck!

[Cokebottle]

Hayman is correct; the gun has to be unloaded, and in a different part of the vehicle than the UNLOADED mags, and ammo. Unloaded mags and ammo can be in one bag, in the trunk. Gun in another bag/case, in the back seat.
If it's an SUV, gun in back seat, mags/ammo in the rear. That's what I've been told by a Calif LEO, in a training class.

You were told incorrectly.

What you were told is not the law. What you were told is what that particular LEO wants to see.

Magazines can be loaded.
Magazines can be in the same locked container with the gun.
The locked container with the gun and the mags can be in your lap.

Cops and gun shop employees make up laws all the time, but when you press them, they cannot cite the California PC to support their claim because it doesn't exist.

This is what is called FUD - Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt.

[colorwolf]

I read through the thread and want more specific answer for me and my truck. I understand that it's legal if the gun and ammo is in a locked trunk of a car.

But what is the requirement for transporting handguns on a truck without a cover.

[Cyc Wid It]

I read through the thread and want more specific answer for me and my truck. I understand that it's legal if the gun and ammo is in a locked trunk of a car.

But what is the requirement for transporting handguns on a truck without a cover.

Lock them in a container, like a range bag or backpack.

[Oceanbob]

This is correct.

A pistol needs to be in locked container while being transport in a car.

Your pistol can be in an unlocked case, or out of a case if it is in the trunk. A trunk is considered to be a locked container. As long as there is no access to the trunk through the back seat.

A fire arm is only 'loaded' when there is a loaded magazine in the mag-well of the gun. Or there is an unexpended round in the chamber.

It is perfectly legal to have ammo scattered about all over your car (not recommended, but legal). It is perfectly legal to have a loaded magazine in the same locked container as the gun. As long as it is not in the mag-well of the gun.

You can have a pistol on the front passenger seat with a loaded magazine right next to it. It is perfectly legal because it is not concealed. Don't expect any LEO to know any of this.

However, all firearms need to be in a locked container when in a traveling through a restricted area (like within 1000' of a school).

It is extremely imperative that you read and reread and reread the law (federal, state and local). Consult a lawyer in regards to any questions. Know all your rights.

Keep a copy of Penal Codes and highlight those related to your needs. Do not be afraid to politely ask a LEO to consult their supervisor if they are unaware of material you are presenting.

I would suggest buying a decent lockable container to transport your firearm and ammunition in. Keep it locked all the time. Then you don't have to worry about it. If a LEO inquires as to what is in the container.... your response should always be 'I have nothing illegal'.

Good luck!

THIS ^^^^^

Never get your information from a LEO or a Gun Store Employee...LOL.

I carry my GLOCK 29 with 2 full magazines in this container ON MY FRONT SEAT IN MY CAR...



The Locked/unloaded weapon travels in this NETBOOK CASE that I bought at Target for $18. The combo lock I got at a gun store.


It would take a WARRANT to open it. It is perfectly LEGAL this way.

I have nothing Illegal in my car officer. Am I free to go..?..

Bob