Thoughts on recoil managment systems?

[Blue Ridge Reef]

I recently bought a P99c, and shoot it better than any centerfire pistol I own... well, at least my 1st shot -or if I really take my time between shots. I found this item online: http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/sid=4...S_fits_Walther and the reviews seem to be favorable. The recoil isn't uncomfortable, but it's a light little pistol (<18 oz.), and I don't follow up shots in quickly enough. That AS trigger will let 'em rip awfully fast, and I'm not getting to take advantage of it at my current skill level. I realize practicing with my new gun will make more difference than anything, but if these drop-ins really work I will get one. Thanks in advance.

[B Strong]

Over the years, I've fooled around with trying out everything under the sun wrt different recoil spring guides, spring weights, buffers, and this is what I've determined:

leave the recoil spring system alone. The piece will be more reliable with factory specification springs, and there isn't enough recoil reduxction in the real world to justify the price.

[Q619]

The best recoil management system is practice. Your best spent money at this time would be on ammo. The only time I'd mess with things like spring weights would be if I were shooting a lot of either heavy (to keep the gun from getting as beat up) or light loads (if it were short cycling/jamming).

[tba02]

I can't speak to the item you mention, but I can speak to the P99c - practice, as you stated, is the best. Spend the money on ammo. I have a full size as well, but I shoot the compact most of the time. I'm a better shot (with AS follow-ups) with the compact by far. I can only attribute that to practice and the fact that I have small hands and the compact is a better fit - but I still would argue it's trigger time.

[gobi fish]

pratice

[Bigdaa]

The best recoil management system is practice.

How can anyone argue with this?

I'm walkabout.............

[Blue Ridge Reef]

Over the years, I've fooled around with trying out everything under the sun wrt different recoil spring guides, spring weights, buffers, and this is what I've determined:

leave the recoil spring system alone. The piece will be more reliable with factory specification springs, and there isn't enough recoil reduxction in the real world to justify the price.

Thanks! This is currently my carry gun, so if there's any loss of reliability, that's a deal-breaker.

I can't speak to the item you mention, but I can speak to the P99c - practice, as you stated, is the best. Spend the money on ammo. I have a full size as well, but I shoot the compact most of the time. I'm a better shot (with AS follow-ups) with the compact by far. I can only attribute that to practice and the fact that I have small hands and the compact is a better fit - but I still would argue it's trigger time.

I was considering getting a standard P99 as my full size next pistol, just to avoid having to get comfortable with a new gun. That PPQ looks to have a whole new trigger system, though I haven't talked to anybody who's shot one. Outside of H&K's I'm not sure of many other options that aren't designed very differently. If your full size is the same caliber, is the recoil less appreciable in the larger model?

[IPSICK]

Sprinco was garbage and made my SiG Pro completely unreliable. With most guns, you're better off with training and practice.

[BamBam-31]

Use a firm high thumbs hold, and don't lock your elbows straight (from Isosceles). There's your best recoil management system right there.

[9mmepiphany]

as BamBam-31 just said, the best recoil management system is a correct grip. While practice will help, if you're not practicing the most efficient grip, you're only putting yourself at a disadvantage.

What you want to manage recoil is a all enveloping grip with your thumbs pointed forward (not locked down) without pushing or pulling with either hand. The Modern Isosceles allows the fastest followup shots if you don't lock your arms out. This is the grip and stance used by almost all the top shooters in competition, LE and the military

[tba02]

If your full size is the same caliber, is the recoil less appreciable in the larger model?

Both my P99's are 9mm and the recoil difference between the full size and the compact is negligible for me (I shoot modified isosceles).

[JJ1911]

Improving technique has been far more beneficial than the recoil system from sprinco I tried.

As mentioned, getting a good high grip on the gun, and proper arm tension work better than a spring system that can potentially cause additional malfunctions.

My experience with Sprinco recoil reducer has been less than stellar. I was having FTEs on a gun that had previously run malfunction free for over 2000 rounds. Switched back to stock spring and the problem miraculously went away during the next 1000 or so. I never even noticed a real reduction in recoil.

[Oceanbob]

Yes

Use a firm high thumbs hold, and don't lock your elbows straight (from Isosceles). There's your best recoil management system right there.

This..!^^^^^^^^^^

Shoot 200 rounds of .44 mag in a Smith 29 first.

[jackandblood]

last Top Shot the speed shooters were saying that the one guy was using a revolver grip that had a tendency to activate the slide safety on the race 1911. Whats a revolver grip? I grip my single action frame revolver thumbs pointed straight like the standard semi auto grip. Never accidentally tripped the safety when renting some form of 1911. Cup and saucer is funny. I feel like if I did that, i'd get premature arthritis in my left (saucer) wrist.

[9mmepiphany]

Whats a revolver grip?

A revolver grip usually has the (for a right-hander) right thumb locked down on the left grip and the left thumb locked down on top of it.

Folks mistakenly believe that this gives them more grip, because they are bringing their thumbs into play, but it actually compromises the management of a recoiling handgun and alters the muzzle flip vector from the ideal