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  • JayTee_IsMe
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2010
    • 884

    Dumb Glock 23 Question

    So I took my G23 to the range for the first time today. And it was pretty swell. I didn't like the 165gr ammo too much. Really snappy to me and therefore like not accurate like when I shot the G22 with 180gr. Any input?

    But my main question is... When you slap your mag in with a little bit of force, do your slide just go forward by its self without touching the release or anything? I'm coming from a Sigma 9mm and I didn't have that problem. Maybe I should replace the slide lock/release? (Maybe get the extended)
  • #2
    Turo
    Calguns Addict
    • May 2009
    • 5066

    Some people don't see it as a problem, but an advantage. It takes one motion out of reloading, thus allowing faster reloads.

    Mine doesn't do this, but I've seen others that do. Just kind of depends on a bunch of different things.

    You don't have to get it replaced, it's not malfunctioning in any way. If you don't like it, you can always seat the mags in a little softer.

    As for 165gr vs 180gr, the 165gr should have a bit quicker recoil than the 180gr, as it's exiting the barrel at a higher velocity. If you don't shoot the 165gr as well, then just shoot 180gr. No big deal there. The round was actually designed around the 180gr load.
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    • #3
      CSDGuy
      Veteran Member
      • Mar 2007
      • 3763

      I've had mine do that too... but it doesn't bother me. As to the snappy feeling... I noticed that the 165gr loads do feel a bit snappier. I normally shoot 180gr loads. Really, in any event, the extra snappy feeling of the lighter bullets really doesn't bother me that much. It just doesn't.

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      • #4
        JayTee_IsMe
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2010
        • 884

        Yeah I wasn't complaining about the 165gr. It's just what I had bought cheap. But I wasn't expecting them to be that umm snappy. I find that I can't group 3 shots with it consistently. Two will group and the 3rd is always 1-2" off. Might be me anticipating the recoil though. Still have 100rds so I guess I'll have to burn through them until and just stick to the 180gr. Any good shooting instructors in the Solano - Sacramento - Conta Costa area?

        But I guess it is a bit of an advantage. I hadn't thought of it that way. I just wasn't used to this because I seat them the with the same force as every pistol I've shot and never had that issue, just wanted to make sure I didn't but a problem gun. I'm lovin it still though.

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        • #5
          glock7
          Veteran Member
          • Aug 2010
          • 3390

          keep practicing, when i first went from 9 to 40 i went whoa...now i go whooooo!!enjoy.
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          • #6
            Grumpyoldretiredcop
            Calguns Addict
            • Sep 2008
            • 6437

            I'd hazard to say that the "snappy" recoil sensation comes from lower slide mass/higher slide speed. As for the weapon returning to battery when the magazine is slapped in, when my agency transitioned to Glocks, the Glock rep referred to a pistol that did that as a "bonus Glock". Seriously, it isn't an issue but don't count on it happening. If you're inserting your magazines properly, you're not "slapping" them into the well.
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            • #7
              G60
              Veteran Member
              • Feb 2008
              • 3989

              It happens to many semi-auto designs, but you shouldn't count on it to happen every time.

              it is a bonus, but don't bet your life on it.

              both my m&p's release the slide if i put a new mag in it with good force. my old XD45 didn't.
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              • #8
                QuarterBoreGunner
                Administrator
                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                • Oct 2005
                • 9389

                Originally posted by G60
                It happens to many semi-auto designs, but you shouldn't count on it to happen every time.

                it is a bonus, but don't bet your life on it.


                both my m&p's release the slide if i put a new mag in it with good force. my old XD45 didn't.
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                • #9
                  JayTee_IsMe
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2010
                  • 884

                  Originally posted by Grumpyoldretiredcop
                  I'd hazard to say that the "snappy" recoil sensation comes from lower slide mass/higher slide speed. As for the weapon returning to battery when the magazine is slapped in, when my agency transitioned to Glocks, the Glock rep referred to a pistol that did that as a "bonus Glock". Seriously, it isn't an issue but don't count on it happening. If you're inserting your magazines properly, you're not "slapping" them into the well.
                  Yeah, I "slap" it in because well I have no formal handgun training aside from my exposed firearm class for my security guard. And well I'm used to "slapping" my mag into my M4 as I was taught with S.P.O.R.T.S. and the first S being "slap the mag"

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                  • #10
                    Josh3239
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 9191

                    Yeah but SPORTS sucks. It really an old school, general fixer for non-gun people to quickly remember how to get themselves back into the fight. It is just another band-aid from the wound that was Vietnam. It doesn't address to many other factors, including but not limited to what it does to your equipment. "Slap" does not ensure your magazine is locked in and it can potentially damage feedlips. I think PPPORTS, might be harder to remember. Then again, observe doesn't help much under certain conditions and IMO tap is a waste.

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                    • #11
                      ADAM
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2008
                      • 2497

                      both my glocks 22 and 23 do close the slide when I slap the mags in.you just need to shoot more often to get use to the recoil of 40 in light guns.
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                      • #12
                        JayTee_IsMe
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2010
                        • 884

                        Originally posted by Josh3239
                        Yeah but SPORTS sucks. It really an old school, general fixer for non-gun people to quickly remember how to get themselves back into the fight. It is just another band-aid from the wound that was Vietnam. It doesn't address to many other factors, including but not limited to what it does to your equipment. "Slap" does not ensure your magazine is locked in and it can potentially damage feedlips. I think PPPORTS, might be harder to remember. Then again, observe doesn't help much under certain conditions and IMO tap is a waste.
                        Well from times I have jammed my M4, SPORTS has helped lol. Usually if a misfeed, then slap does the trick. Misfire, pull and eject. I never understood observe because if you just pulled and ejected, theres nothing to observe?? But its better then just not knowing what to do in a jam and giving those privates' "how do I do it drill sgt" face.

                        Ehh guess I need more range time with my Glock.

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                        • #13
                          SixPointEight
                          Veteran Member
                          • May 2009
                          • 3788

                          Originally posted by JayTee_IsMe
                          Well from times I have jammed my M4, SPORTS has helped lol. Usually if a misfeed, then slap does the trick. Misfire, pull and eject. I never understood observe because if you just pulled and ejected, theres nothing to observe?? But its better then just not knowing what to do in a jam and giving those privates' "how do I do it drill sgt" face.

                          Ehh guess I need more range time with my Glock.
                          If it's a double feed, you'll slap, pull the charging handle, observe either A) the round ejecting or B) yourself ****ting a brick because you have a double feed and have to strip the mag out.

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                          • #14
                            moosegun
                            Member
                            • Mar 2011
                            • 182

                            Ya occationally it happens but it's not a lemon....as others have said its an advantage(bonus) mine only does it if I slap it in hard...
                            But you do not need to slap so hard...on glocks anyway.. I wouldn't change anything until you put more time at the range with it(you just have to get used to it I think).. if it still bothers you after 1000 rounds..then change the slide lock..

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                            • #15
                              socal-shooter
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2010
                              • 1521

                              I love the snapiness of the 23

                              AND I LOVE HOW THE SLIDE AUTOMATICALLY RACKS FORWARD WHEN I SLAP IN A FRESH MAG

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