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  • ChrisTKHarris
    Veteran Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 4203

    I Propose Another CCW Perk

    I propose that if a person has a CCW they should be able to

    1) Purchase handguns without a waiting period
    2) Have the ability to purchase off-roster handguns



    Discuss.
    Don't let the name fool you...
  • #2
    IrishPirate
    Calguns Addict
    • Aug 2009
    • 6390

    no one here will say no to this....non CCW holders should be able to do it too because there should be constitutional carry not CCW.
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    • #3
      ChrisTKHarris
      Veteran Member
      • Sep 2009
      • 4203

      Originally posted by IrishPirate
      no one here will say no to this....non CCW holders should be able to do it too because there should be constitutional carry not CCW.
      Of course that would be ideal, but I feel like my proposals aren't too much to ask since as of now a CCW holder must jump through hoops (then again neither is yours).
      Don't let the name fool you...

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      • #4
        IrishPirate
        Calguns Addict
        • Aug 2009
        • 6390

        i'm just saying, that's something everyone here already agrees with....anyone who can find fault in that is an anti in gunner's clothing just here to troll
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        • #5
          Legasat
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          • Mar 2009
          • 4151

          I would actually go one further...anyone who already owns a gun should not have a waiting period. How can you prevent a crime of passion if you already own a gun?

          The roster should just disappear, it's a ridiculous concept to begin with.
          Last edited by Legasat; 03-05-2011, 1:34 PM.
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          • #6
            DannyZRC
            Member
            • Mar 2010
            • 465

            I disagree, I think giving any more legitimacy to the CCW permit farce through permits is bad juju.
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            • #7
              Hopalong
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2010
              • 2436

              As was stated in another thread, at another time

              "Nice Try"

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              • #8
                ZombieTactics
                Veteran Member
                • Jan 2010
                • 3691

                I think the proposal - although probably doomed from the start - has certain merits, as I'll explain.

                For the foreseeable future, the individual States will likely be either a) Constitutional Carry or b) Some kind of permitted/licensed carry. I think this is probably going to hash out pretty quickly to the point that it'll be essentially settled by each State and not likely to change from one to the other willy-nilly.

                In this context, expanding the rights of CCW holders serves only to bring them more in line with what "free state" citizens enjoy. The expansion of a legitimate right is a good thing.

                It also serves to put the lie to certain arguments which will be arrayed by the antis -- "Well, that works for Wyoming, but here in California we don't even allow CCW holders to ... so it's not the same thing". The more that CCW holders have the same freedoms as those in "free states", the less it can be argued that there is any sense for a permitting system at all. Rather than legitimizing permitting schemes, it serves to make them look ridiculous. In a climate of cutting costs and bureaucracy, this is "pointing the arrow in the direction it should go".

                Any kind of national or interstate reciprocity only serves as a multiplier for keeping the pressure in the right direction, IMHO.
                Last edited by ZombieTactics; 03-05-2011, 1:34 PM.
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                • #9
                  ZOMBIEHUNTER
                  Member
                  • May 2008
                  • 395

                  Sounds like a normal day in Nevada.I have had no regrets in leaving California.
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                  • #10
                    G60
                    Veteran Member
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 3989

                    isn't the 10 day wait being 'worked on'?
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                    • #11
                      xxINKxx
                      Veteran Member
                      • Jun 2008
                      • 4289

                      Originally posted by ZOMBIEHUNTER
                      Sounds like a normal day in Nevada.I have had no regrets in leaving California.
                      + 1

                      In AZ you walk in and can buy a gun and take it home within 10 mins of deciding what you want..

                      If you have a CCW its even faster, theres no calling in a background check.

                      Theres no reason why CA shouldnt have instant background checks, or a roster. A gun thats approved on the list is no different then a gun thats banned.
                      "If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so." - Thomas Jefferson

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                      • #12
                        Quiet
                        retired Goon
                        • Mar 2007
                        • 30242

                        Originally posted by ChrisTKHarris
                        I propose that if a person has a CCW they should be able to

                        1) Purchase handguns without a waiting period

                        Discuss.
                        Originally posted by Legasat
                        I would actually go one further...anyone who already owns a gun should not have a waiting period. How can you prevent a crime of passion if you already own a gun?
                        Because it would take so long and be such a hard fight (therefore it is on the backburner) to get rid of the waiting period, there was talk about implementing a faster work around by introducing legislation to get an exemption to the waiting period for non-prohibited persons that already own firearms (such as persons with a valid COE, valid CA CCW permit, valid DW permit, etc). Not sure what happen with this.
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                        • #13
                          Tripper
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Jan 2011
                          • 7628

                          I think a CCW perk or modification should be
                          authorized to carry the following;
                          Semi-Automatic only, or
                          Revolver Only, or
                          Semi-auto or Revolver

                          I could almost agree to calibers, no, not really, almost

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                          • #14
                            Bryansix
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Feb 2011
                            • 5311

                            Originally posted by G60
                            isn't the 10 day wait being 'worked on'?
                            I sure hope so. Also my 10 day was a lot longer then 10 days because first I had to wait for a serial number.
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                            • #15
                              vintagearms
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 6841

                              Originally posted by ChrisTKHarris
                              I propose that if a person has a CCW they should be able to

                              1) Purchase handguns without a waiting period
                              2) Have the ability to purchase off-roster handguns



                              Discuss.
                              Let me guess...You have your CCW and now want "special" rights.

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