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  • Bubba281
    Junior Member
    CGN Contributor
    • Jun 2008
    • 49

    Legality in California?? - Ruger LC9

    As I am looking for a small, single stack, sub-compact; the LC9 strikes my fancy but I am left wondering. Wondering if it is indead going to be DOJ approved. I know the Ruger rep. has stated its going to be 50 state legal but.....

    The California Code of Regulations, Title 11, Division 5, Chapter 5, Article 4, Section 4060 Testing Procedures states,
    "(2) Commencing January 1, 2007, the DOJ-Certified Laboratory shall conduct the required testing
    of a center-fire semiautomatic pistol which accepts a detachable magazine only after ascertaining
    the firearm has both a functioning chamber load indicator and a functioning magazine disconnect
    mechanism."

    Unfortunately, It does not seem that the Ruger LC9 has a magazine disconnect mechanism.

    Can anyone shed some light on this? I am hoping I either mis read the regulations or in fact that the LC9 does have a magazine disconnect.
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    robcoe
    Calguns Addict
    • Apr 2010
    • 8685

    Under features on the ruger site it says it has a "magazine safety" aka magazine disconnect safety. it will be fine, just takes time to get on roster.

    Edit: also check page 16 of the manual online, it definitly has a magazine disconnect safety.
    Last edited by robcoe; 02-23-2011, 6:32 PM.
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    • #3
      G60
      Veteran Member
      • Feb 2008
      • 3989

      It will be need to purchased via PPT from someone who already has it, or as a single shot exemption.

      it is not on the roster of handguns approved for sale.
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      • #4
        Bubba281
        Junior Member
        CGN Contributor
        • Jun 2008
        • 49

        Originally posted by robcoe
        Under features on the ruger site it says it has a "magazine safety" aka magazine disconnect safety. it will be fine, just takes time to get on roster.
        Thank you for pointing this out. Had a paid more attention to what I was reading I would have saved us all some time from both writing and reading this thread.

        Looking forward to purchasing one, once it hits the approved list.

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        • #5
          ironcross
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2008
          • 726

          Originally posted by G60
          It will be need to purchased via PPT from someone who already has it, or as a single shot exemption.

          it is not on the roster of handguns approved for sale.
          This, either wait till whenever[If] it ever get on the roster.
          I'm not a LEO nor Lawyer, none of what I say can nor should be used as legal advice.

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          • #6
            G60
            Veteran Member
            • Feb 2008
            • 3989

            I've done some quick googling and I doubt this pistol will ever make it on the roster.
            CA approved pistols need not just a LCI and mag safety, but it must meet certain standards of a LCI which are:

            "(d)(1) A functioning chamber load indicator must meet all of the following conditions:

            (A) Explanatory text and/or graphics either incorporated within the chamber load indicator or
            adjacent to the chamber load indicator is/are permanently displayed by engraving, stamping,
            etching, molding, casting, or other means of permanent marking.

            (B) Each letter of explanatory text must have a minimum height of 1/16".

            (C) The explanatory text and/or graphics shall be of a distinct visual contrast to that of the firearm.

            (D) The “loaded” indication, that portion of the chamber load indicator that visually indicates there
            is a round in the chamber, shall be of a distinct color contrast to the firearm.

            (E) Only when there is a round in the chamber, the “loaded” indication is visible on the firearm from
            a distance of at least twenty-four inches. When there is no round in the chamber, the “loaded” indication
            must not be visible.

            (F) The text and/or graphics and the “loaded” indication together inform a reasonably foreseeable adult
            user of the pistol, that a round is in the chamber, without requiring the user to refer to a user’s manual.
            "

            Your best bet is to get one via single shot exemption. I don't know of any SoCal dealers that sell them, but there is a thread floating around somewhere which may be of help. Valkyrie Arms in Milpitas, and PRK arms in Fresno both stock them, and it's a popular conversion so I don't think the price is anything over MSRP.
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            • #7
              safewaysecurity
              Calguns Addict
              • Jun 2010
              • 6166

              I do believe the LC9 has a chamber indicator and a magazine disconnect.They just need to submit it for drop testing non-sense and wait for it to get approved. Watch the video at around 2:40 in and you will see it's a 50 state legal gun and will approved as soon as California approves it.

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              • #8
                G60
                Veteran Member
                • Feb 2008
                • 3989

                ahh! you're right, i was confusing the LCP and LC9, sorry.
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                • #9
                  BlindRacer
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2009
                  • 631

                  Just in case anyone was wondering, the LC9 is now on the Approved Roster!!!

                  LC9 / Alloy; polymer Pistol 3.14" 9mm expires 3/7/2012

                  Roster

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                  • #10
                    cnj
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2004
                    • 1275

                    good news!
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