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  • ajl2121
    Member
    • Jan 2007
    • 324

    Mastering the USP

    I was looking for an instructional video that could properly teach me shooting techniques, practice routines, and cleaning methods for my USP .45F. Anyone have any experience with "Mastering the USP" DVD? Any other suggestions? It sells for 35$ w/o tax or shipping. thanks
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    pnkssbtz
    Veteran Member
    • Oct 2006
    • 3555

    While i've never watched this "Mastering the USP" DVD I do have one in the USPf .40 SW with LEM trigger.

    It was my first pistol and I am happy with it, but I learned from shooting a friends super custom 1911, that there are serious differences that don't lend itself to making it easy to learn to shoot right.

    But I've been practicing a lot with it and my P220 and here is how I got from shooting 10" groups at 5 yrds to 3" groups at 7 yards.


    Step one:
    Proper stance / grip. Watch this video by Todd Jarret.


    Step two.
    Watch this video on more in-depth instructions on proper grip.


    Step three.
    Dry firing. Buy some snap caps. Make sure you clear your weapon and verify you are NOT loading live rounds. Then practice pulling the trigger without moving your whole hand. Milking the gun etc. I.E. pulling the trigger while isolating your finger.


    Step four.
    Shoot lots of bullets. The last step was to overcome my flinch. I don't flinch with .45's and I don't flinch with .22's but I flinched with .40SW. You may not have this problem with a .45


    Step five.
    Working on consistent grouping. I talked to an expert marksman and he suggested I start with my target at 3 yrds until I could shoot a hole out of the target. Then move the target back 1 yard and repeat until I shoot a single hole. Etc. Etc. until I can push the target back out to where I want.

    Starting with the target at 10yrds is unrealistic and will only leave you frustrated at your inaccuracy.



    These videos and the dry firing practice really helped me. I bought a P220 Carry and I can get 2" groups with it @ 7yds. Considering I've only been shooting pistols since August of '06. I'd say that was pretty good progress =P

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    • #3
      Mike-4
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2004
      • 792

      Check your IM.
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      • #4
        ajl2121
        Member
        • Jan 2007
        • 324

        good stuff!! thanks...I always crossed my thumbs when I shoot...I need to correct that. Also, when they say let your thumb ride on the safety..they mean under the safety right? I have a USP which has a similiar external safety to a 1911.

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        • #5
          ajl2121
          Member
          • Jan 2007
          • 324

          pm sent

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          • #6
            pnkssbtz
            Veteran Member
            • Oct 2006
            • 3555

            No, don't ride the safety on the USP because of the decocking lever. Don't want to accidentally decock the hammer...

            You thumbs should be exerting zero pressure on the gun. Just put them anywhere where you don't get slide bite =P

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            • #7
              psriley
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2007
              • 548

              I like my USP, but I've been learning that there is definitely a technique to shooting it properly. It's really susceptible to ftf due to limp-wristing, much like a 1911. I find that if I use the combat grip and squared-up stance referenced above it works pretty well. I lock out my gun arm joints and grip the gun very firmly (not white-knuckle firm, though), and that seems to do the trick. If I shoot it properly, I can do sub-3" groups at 15 yds on a good day.

              HTH
              A revolution without dancing is a revolution not worth having.

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              • #8
                DIG
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2006
                • 964

                Originally posted by ajl2121
                I was looking for an instructional video that could properly teach me shooting techniques, practice routines, and cleaning methods for my USP .45F. Anyone have any experience with "Mastering the USP" DVD? Any other suggestions? It sells for 35$ w/o tax or shipping. thanks
                yeah, I bought it from cheaperthandirt.com for just under $20. You'll find it at amoeba used-records/video in SF now for probably $5 or so.
                It was a beginners course on semi-automatic pistol useage and safety and shooting technique. If you've been shooting a few years, you probably won't learn anything new at all. However, if your new to shooting pistol, it might provide a good review of loading/unloading, shooting stance, etc..

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                • #9
                  ajl2121
                  Member
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 324

                  Does the video have detailed steps on how to clean the pistol?...Like, basic cleaning with just field stripping and magazine cleaning, and the major cleaning that is suggested every 5K rounds?

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                  • #10
                    DIG
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2006
                    • 964

                    Originally posted by ajl2121
                    Does the video have detailed steps on how to clean the pistol?...Like, basic cleaning with just field stripping and magazine cleaning, and the major cleaning that is suggested every 5K rounds?
                    the video just goes over basic field stripping and cleaning. most of the things covered in the video can apply to any semi-auto pistol though. you can find it on the internet fairly cheap.
                    good luck!

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                    • #11
                      50ae
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 572

                      Save your money and go to the home of HK.

                      Actually created in 1999 (the original posts from the first database were lost), we are a forum dedicated to and laser-focused on Heckler & Koch firearms, Heckler & Koch accessories and the owners and enthusiasts that love them! Come join the discussion regarding HK pistols, long arms, NFA arms...
                      Proud to be a SoCal expatriate currently living in DFW, TX.

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                      • #12
                        1911su16b870
                        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                        CGN Contributor
                        • Dec 2006
                        • 7654

                        IMO HK USP requires a firmer support grip than other firearms. Try increasing the firmness of your grip and remember to follow through your shots.
                        "Bruen, the Bruen opinion, I believe, discarded the intermediate scrutiny test that I also thought was not very useful; and has, instead, replaced it with a text history and tradition test." Judge Benitez 12-12-2022

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                        • #13
                          virulosity
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2006
                          • 1569

                          I tried the Todd Jarret "1911" grip on my elite today and it doubled the size of my groups. +1 about holding the pistol firm. Usually with my other pistols you shoot more accurately when you are "surprised" when the gun fires. With the USP, I have to be much more deliberate with my trigger finger to get good groups.

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                          • #14
                            ketec_owner
                            Member
                            • Jun 2005
                            • 302

                            Love the usp. Had a USP Match and a USP 45. Now I have a USP 45 Expert.

                            I found that Massad Ayoob has some pretty good books and videos on the subject. Personally, I found that a decent set of adjustable sights, installing the match trigger, breathing technique, dry firing using snap caps, get over your flinch, speed drills, and work on locking your grip go a long way to improving accuracy.

                            I found was trigger technique, snap caps, and locking your grip were the most value. Your mileage may vary.
                            WECSOG - "SEMPER DREMELATUS"

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                            • #15
                              SystemError
                              Junior Member
                              • Jul 2007
                              • 5

                              great videos from youtube, thanks.

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