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  • fireblast713
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2007
    • 909

    PPT's

    Just out of curiousity could do you a PPT with someone who wasn't a resident of CA... for example if my friend lives in AZ and wanted to sell me a firearm, could he just bring it over and do the PPT locally so I save on shipping/interstate FFL fee's?
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    XDshooter
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2007
    • 902

    Originally posted by fireblast713
    Just out of curiousity could do you a PPT with someone who wasn't a resident of CA... for example if my friend lives in AZ and wanted to sell me a firearm, could he just bring it over and do the PPT locally so I save on shipping/interstate FFL fee's?
    Nope. That would be a violation of federal law. Interstate firearm transfers must go through FFLs.

    No violation of california law as it would be considered a PPT, but it's a federal offense.
    Originally posted by E Pluribus Unum
    I was on a ride-along, and the officer i was with saw a parked car with occupants. He was going up to ask them to move their car and as soon as he gets to the window the passenger says "I have meth under my seat."

    I've never understood the self-confessors....

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    • #3
      aplinker
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Feb 2007
      • 16762

      Originally posted by XDshooter
      Nope. That would be a violation of federal law. Interstate firearm transfers must go through FFLs.

      No violation of california law as it would be considered a PPT, but it's a federal offense.
      Hmmm... Your statement of it being a fed offense because it wouldn't be going through FFL's... I'm confused. His hypothetical uses an FFL for the transfer. He's saying his friend would buy it then come to CA to sell it.

      Does someone know the actual law? In the case of non-rostered handguns obviously you couldn't do this, but if it's on the list, could someone from out of state do a PPT? How's that any different than if a private party shipped it to the dealer?

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      • #4
        slick_711
        Veteran Member
        • Feb 2006
        • 4400

        Its not a violation of federal law, it would be a violation of CA law. The above poster had it reversed. Simple rule of thumb, to buy a gun in CA (or be the seller in a PPT) you must A) have a CA Drivers license or CA Identification card and be a current CA resident, or B) be ACTIVE duty military with a current Military identification card and current orders PCSing you to CA. A non-CA resident cannot take part in a PPT transfer, and cannot buy guns period in the state of CA.

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        • #5
          peter455
          Junior Member
          • May 2007
          • 59

          Hmm, Gray Davis and his henchmen sure left a lot crap for us to deal with.

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          • #6
            XDshooter
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2007
            • 902

            Originally posted by slick_711
            Its not a violation of federal law, it would be a violation of CA law. The above poster had it reversed. Simple rule of thumb, to buy a gun in CA (or be the seller in a PPT) you must A) have a CA Drivers license or CA Identification card and be a current CA resident, or B) be ACTIVE duty military with a current Military identification card and current orders PCSing you to CA. A non-CA resident cannot take part in a PPT transfer, and cannot buy guns period in the state of CA.
            Here it is. Federal violation.

            US CODE Title 18
            922. Unlawful acts
            (a) It shall be unlawful
            (5) for any person (other than a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, licensed dealer, or licensed collector) to transfer, sell, trade, give, transport, or deliver any firearm to any person (other than a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, licensed dealer, or licensed collector) who the transferor knows or has reasonable cause to believe does not reside in (or if the person is a corporation or other business entity, does not maintain a place of business in) the State in which the transferor resides; except that this paragraph shall not apply to
            Originally posted by E Pluribus Unum
            I was on a ride-along, and the officer i was with saw a parked car with occupants. He was going up to ask them to move their car and as soon as he gets to the window the passenger says "I have meth under my seat."

            I've never understood the self-confessors....

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            • #7
              fireblast713
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2007
              • 909

              okay then... scratch that.

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