Hi Point C9 Pistol

[fireblast713]

So I was thinking of buying a Hi Point C9 9mm pistol just to learn the basics on trigger control, sight picture, etc.

Considering I've heard of people finding them for like $60-$80 used at pawn shops I figured I'd be easier to pick one of these up and learn on cheap 9mm then to learn on My HK.45 or even a P22 or 9mm conversion for my Glock 23. Plus I've heard the gun actually has very little recoil due to it's weight and I could use it to teach other's how to shoot. Any opinions on this?

Also does anyone know a shop the carries them for cheap or used. Turners has them for $139.99 but it comes out to $180 after tax and DROS and I'd rather not pay that much for a POC handgun that I'm going to use for only a little bit and teach people on.

[wilit]

You can find them on gunbroker from time to time for $80.

[WallySparx]

it's reliable, and combat accurate. it was a fun toy while i had it, then subsequently sold it to another calgunner. while it's good enough to teach someone on a silhouette, a beginner might get frustrated while trying to keep shots in the black.

i wouldn't say the recoil is less, but rather different. because the slide is so heavy you feel it more going straight back than the muzzle going upwards. or at least that's the way it seemed to me.

if you can find one, for $100 or less, then great. if not, keep looking.

[tuna quesadilla]

Consider airsoft. You can get set up with everything you need for a good airsoft gun for $150. They are clones of real guns, which means you can get Glocks, USPs, 1911s, etc. Airsoft pistols use a compressed gas to propel a small plastic BB. They function identically to the way any semi-automatic pistol does. Pull the trigger and some of the gas will decompress and shoot the BB. The slide will recoil backwards and, upon closing, a new BB will be chambered.

They are great because you can get new shooters accustomed to the grip and controls of popular guns without having to worry about flinching. You can also practice various gunfighting principles yourself in your backyard or in your garage because they are relatively quiet and the BBs can't penetrate much more than cardboard. You can't say that about real guns.

[fireblast713]

I guess I'd feel better spending ~$150 for a gun which I could use for plinking/varmint hunting, etc then an airsoft gun since I don't play airsoft... if I did play airsoft then yes that would make sense. But I never really considered it.

[aplinker]

So I was thinking of buying a Hi Point C9 9mm pistol just to learn the basics on trigger control, sight picture, etc.

Considering I've heard of people finding them for like $60-$80 used at pawn shops I figured I'd be easier to pick one of these up and learn on cheap 9mm then to learn on My HK.45 or even a P22 or 9mm conversion for my Glock 23. Plus I've heard the gun actually has very little recoil due to it's weight and I could use it to teach other's how to shoot. Any opinions on this?

Also does anyone know a shop the carries them for cheap or used. Turners has them for $139.99 but it comes out to $180 after tax and DROS and I'd rather not pay that much for a POC handgun that I'm going to use for only a little bit and teach people on.

I don't understand the point of buying it. Do you own a P22 or a conversion kit for the G23? If so, there's absolutely no reason to buy it. You won't gain anything extra from it. You can't wear out a gun. It's near impossible. So from that standpoint it doesn't make sense. From the standpoint of reduced recoil, the P22 takes care of that.

What does it add that you don't have between the P22, USP, and G23 w/9mm?

[Turbinator]

You also need to think about whether the gun will function properly enough of the time to be of value, lest it create more frustration than you expect.

Turby

[fireblast713]

I don't have a P22 or a G23 with a 9mm barrel, those were options I was considering, the 9mm barrel being the 2nd most affordable at 130$ or so (105$ barrel and 25$ G19 mag - including shipping costs). But I figured for that price if I can get another gun why not, I can teach someone to learn on it w/o worrying if they f' it up, and it doesn't add uneven wear to my Glock 23 components (or any wear for that matter).

[Turbinator]

Hmm. Your Glock 23 is plenty durable, I wouldn't start to worry about the mileage until you hit well into the 5 digit range of rounds fired.

Turby

[fireblast713]

So you guys don't think the C9 is a viable option? Same price as conversion barrel if not slightly cheaper (assuming I find a used one), get a standalone pistol that I can use for plinking/teaching/duties I wouldn't want to do w/ my more expensive guns.

[Maddog5150]

no offense intended but it sounds like you already made up your mind and just want to check with calgunners for approval. If you want to buy it then buy one. I havent heard many positive things about the low-points and have had one break before while doing the safe handling demo If your worried about someone effing up your gun while shooting it then you really dont need to take that kind of a person to a range. The type of person who is going to throw the gun ten feet in the air when they hear the bang and thats pretty much the only thing you will have to worry about.

[fireblast713]

no offense intended but it sounds like you already made up your mind and just want to check with calgunners for approval

Haha... kinda yea, idk seemed like a good idea to me, maybe I should just buy 500rnds of .40 cal w/ the $$$ and practice.

[wilit]

I say buy it. Even if you pay retail for it, you're still picking up a brand new pistol for less than $200. That's pretty much unheard of in this state. Even if it does turn out to be a turd, you can still turn around and sell it without loosing too much money. Remember, you can NEVER have too many guns.

[ivanimal]

I own a Raven and two Pheonix arms handguns. I also own a few really high end hand guns as well. A well rounded out shooter has tried a lot of guns and made his mind up for himself what he likes to shoot. I loved my AMT backup till I traded it to a new shooter for a Bond arms Derringer. People say they are crap and unreliable. The 20 Lb. trigger pull was long but crisp. Still I had a ball shooting the gun. So did my friend so I traded it. You never know what gun is going to make you happy. I have a PSP its a 1000 dollar gun that everyone else shoots better than me. Go figure.

[aplinker]

But I figured for that price if I can get another gun why not, I can teach someone to learn on it w/o worrying if they f' it up, and it doesn't add uneven wear to my Glock 23 components (or any wear for that matter).

You absolutely can not wear out a Glock. If you're worried about $50 price difference, then you're certainly not going to be able to spend the $80,000 it would cost in ammunition to wear through a Glock! I sincerely doubt any friend you have could do anything to permanently hurt your Glock. I say shoot that and go nuts.

If you really want another gun, buy it! There's no reason it will hurt you to get it. You're not asking about whether or not to simply buy it, you're asking if it makes sense. If you really do want a P22 and a Glock conversion, get those. If you really want a HP, get that. Stop worrying about us and get what you want to shoot. You already know there are issues with HP's, but at <$100 OTD, in the end, it really won't hurt anything. On the other hand, how many rounds of .40 would it take to make up the difference in cost in buying 9mm? 2000+ rounds?