Sig 22LR conversion kit + dry fire

[natomasboy]

I am considering getting the 22lr conversion kit by Sig. I've heard that the slide does not lock back after the last round.

I know I can count the rounds fired to prevent this but wanted to know if dry-firing the conversion kit is bad.

I've also read that sigpower.com makes a follower that will allow the slide to lock back after the final shot.

I see the 22LR as a "training" tool so by dry-firing after the last round it could help reveal flinching and muzzle dip (similar to revolvers after the 6th shot). Since this is rimfire, an eventual dry-fire will occur at the end after 10 shots. Will this damage the gun?

[konata88]

Get the sigpower.com upgrades - guide rod, follower, mag springs. I've had good experiences with them.

I don't think dry-fire w/out a snap cap is a good idea. You may damage the rim around the chamber resulting in feed issues.

You can use snap caps in regular mags to help reveal flinching -- load snap caps in at random in your mags. Still, 22lr is a great way to get trigger time on your platform w/out the expense of your regular round.

[unusedusername]

Yes, dry-firing the 22lr conversion for a sig 226 will damage the firing pin on the kit eventually.

I use the extended followers from sigpower that keep the slide back after the last shot in my 226 kit. Changing mags with that kit takes some practice as you have to hold both the mag release button and the slide back with your hand to have the mag drop free, but it is way better then damaging a $300 conversion kit.

[Creampuff]

I haven't purchase my conversion kit yet, but I was planning on putting the last round a snap cap each time I load up.

[konata88]

Yes, dry-firing the 22lr conversion for a sig 226 will damage the firing pin on the kit eventually.

I use the extended followers from sigpower that keep the slide back after the last shot in my 226 kit. Changing mags with that kit takes some practice as you have to hold both the mag release button and the slide back with your hand to have the mag drop free, but it is way better then damaging a $300 conversion kit.

You can also manually lock the slide back w/ the slide lock and then release the mag. With the sigpower follower, the slide will be between battery and the slide lock after that last round -- so you can just pull the slide back and lock manually. Then operate as normal.

[wu_dot_com]

I am considering getting the 22lr conversion kit by Sig. I've heard that the slide does not lock back after the last round.

I know I can count the rounds fired to prevent this but wanted to know if dry-firing the conversion kit is bad.

I've also read that sigpower.com makes a follower that will allow the slide to lock back after the final shot.

I see the 22LR as a "training" tool so by dry-firing after the last round it could help reveal flinching and muzzle dip (similar to revolvers after the 6th shot). Since this is rimfire, an eventual dry-fire will occur at the end after 10 shots. Will this damage the gun?

dry firing after the last round have no added advantage to removing the flinch and muzzel dip. proper follow through after each trigger pull is the only way to ensure you have the right trigger discipline.

you dont need to practice dry fire with a P226 with .22 conversion. the trigger pull geometry and weight will not change because of the .22 conversion. so do all your dry fire practice with the standard snapcap.

dry fire in any .22 is generally not recommended due to the nature of rim fire operating principles. continues dry fire will eventually deform the breach face where the firing pin strike. at that point, the barrel is consider unrepairable. occasional dry fire is allow because for the most part, the with in spec firing pin should never touch the breach face.

[wu_dot_com]

BTW sig P226 is not a peculiarly good gun to practice slow accurate firing with. this is becuase the .22 kit is not accurate enough to gauge your improvement. also the firing mechanism have too much tolerance buildup and slacks for a consistent trigger pull. you also only have limited range of manipulation with the trigger pull weight becuase the gun lacks any form of trigger safety.

the .22 conversion is also not the best to simulate rapid fire for action shooting either. one of the key skill a rapid fire shooter develop is their ability to return their POA after each round. however, the .22 does not simulate the same recoil muzzle flip as a 9mm and above.

in closing, if you want to practice accuracy shooting, get a MK 3 or buckmark.
if you want to practice double tap, just use standard 9mm.

[natomasboy]

Thanks for the all the feedback.

[9mmepiphany]

in closing, if you want to practice accuracy shooting, get a MK 3 or buckmark.
if you want to practice double tap, just use standard 9mm.

I have a .22lr conversion upper for the 226ST I usually teach with. While it is certainly not as accurate as a fix barrel dedicated .22lr pistol, what it does allow is you to have the same location of controls and trigger feel as your CF gun. Since trigger management is the most important factor in accurate shooting...for accuracy or speed...utilizing the same trigger in invaluable. I'll often switch the upper between the CF and RF just to show student how grip pressure and trigger management effect their shooting while eliminating the anticipation for the blast from the CF

Loading a .22lr snapcap in the mag is a good idea to check for muzzle dip. It can also be used in place of a hold-open device.

When using the SigPower follower, the correct manual of arms for a reload is to lock the slide back, before dropping the mag.

Dryfiring the .22lr upper, without snap caps, has the effect of peening the barrel which causes:
1. misfeeds
2. unreliable ignition

[natomasboy]

What is a CF and RF?

[konata88]

What is a CF and RF?

Centerfire and Rimfire.

[InGrAM]

Kind of topic. BUT ya.

Iv noticed that when I dry fire by brothers p239 the hammer does not hit the firing pin. sa/da it dosnt matter. The hammer is not hitting the firing pin.

are all da sigs like this?

[jeffrice6]

Looking to get one.... GTK

[9mmepiphany]

Iv noticed that when I dry fire by brothers p239 the hammer does not hit the firing pin. sa/da it dosnt matter. The hammer is not hitting the firing pin.

It is hitting the firing pin, you're just not seeing it because it is a rebounding hammer

[natomasboy]

I tried the conversion kit yesterday and I absolutely love it. I used CCI Minimags and shot 150 rounds through it with no FTF or FTEs. I had to adjust the elevation on the pistol but overall the results were very impressive.

I tried to keep count in order to remember but there were a few times I lost count so I cringed on the last shot not going bang. I think I will get that snap cap as a final round!

The only thing I did was when I first got the kit, I racked it about 50 times, and lubed the rails. I noticed it had a slight bind when I first put the upper on my p229. But now it's sliding perfect with no issues whatsoever.

So it was a good day at the range with one surprise. The Range Officer came over and mentioned to me, "you do know that Sig conversion kits aren't made by Sig. They outsource it. The only company that makes their own conversion kits are Kimber."

Is that true?