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I was at the range the past weekend or so. I had just finished handloading my first rounds that I wanted to try out for my M1A and USP. The .308s went fine, and I was a lot more skeptical dealing with the higher pressures/ more powder, so I won't go into that, this is handgun section right?
Okay, so I was using.. Hornady RN 115 gr. and Hodgdon's TiteGroup, using powders 4.1-4.3. I can get out calipers and such in den morgen if required. http://data.hodgdon.com/cartridge_load.asp They say 4.3 is max.
So I started with the 4.1s, fired 2 rounds, which both hit 6 inches high from bulls-eye (just out of the black circle on std. 100yrd rifle targets) at 25 yrds. So I think its an accurate powder. Third round went bang, and then I hand my first malfunction. Slide locked back, looked into the chamber; FTE, the gun had tried to ram a fresh round down a stuck chamber. I go to release mag, have to tear it out, (LVL 3 function or w/e), and rack the slide back multiple times. I look back into my chamber in horror as the case is still lodged in the chamber! If that was a gun fight I would have thrown my nearly 1k USP it at them, then drawn my knife/run! I resisted this urge against the paper menace, and examined the firearm.. first observation, pin holding the extractor in place was halfway dislodged from the slide. second observation, my extractor had VANISHED! I dislodged the casing with a small diameter dowel, and dissembled the USP, for further inspection. But that was it for that day. The back of the casing had ruptured, I'm assuming the leaked gas blew out my extractor. I am positive I did not double charge these, but this brass wasn't new.
That thing was gone, 4 reloaders combing that area, none found an extractor. They said that was pretty unprecedented for HK's. I sent it into the shop in Georgia. Mr. Sam Bass (like the fish he said), told me that generally ruptured casings can crack the frame(!?). I got lighter springs with the extractor, went back to the range the next week.. Carefully loaded it with the same ammo, and proceeded to very carefully, and slowly.. SHOOT THE HELL OUT OF THAT USP! And it went fantastic. 4.3s were fine too, but I'm going to stay to 4.0 or .1 for target.
I will say the only mishap I seem to have on my USP, is the slide locks forward when empty on certain magazines, seemingly when more dirty. Any one else have this? I thought It could also be my thumb placement against the slide release..
Questions now.. Anyone else have ruptured shells on them? Reloaded or not. How bad is it typically? I Know the USP shot a round into its barrel, shot it out, and then proceeded to keep firing. But 1 ruptured round, basically ending a guns function is a real downer. way worse then a FTE FTF..
I suppose this question goes for slam fires too, if you have a slam fire/rupture shell casing, is it going to break ANY gun EVERY time? At least some part of the gun? Cracked frame, extractor, slide, etc?
So my last part to my question, anyone ever manage to proceeded to shoot a box of casings that will rupture through there gun at one time? I have been shooting for over a decade now, never ever had any problems like this.. Happy shooting, thanks
Okay, so I was using.. Hornady RN 115 gr. and Hodgdon's TiteGroup, using powders 4.1-4.3. I can get out calipers and such in den morgen if required. http://data.hodgdon.com/cartridge_load.asp They say 4.3 is max.
So I started with the 4.1s, fired 2 rounds, which both hit 6 inches high from bulls-eye (just out of the black circle on std. 100yrd rifle targets) at 25 yrds. So I think its an accurate powder. Third round went bang, and then I hand my first malfunction. Slide locked back, looked into the chamber; FTE, the gun had tried to ram a fresh round down a stuck chamber. I go to release mag, have to tear it out, (LVL 3 function or w/e), and rack the slide back multiple times. I look back into my chamber in horror as the case is still lodged in the chamber! If that was a gun fight I would have thrown my nearly 1k USP it at them, then drawn my knife/run! I resisted this urge against the paper menace, and examined the firearm.. first observation, pin holding the extractor in place was halfway dislodged from the slide. second observation, my extractor had VANISHED! I dislodged the casing with a small diameter dowel, and dissembled the USP, for further inspection. But that was it for that day. The back of the casing had ruptured, I'm assuming the leaked gas blew out my extractor. I am positive I did not double charge these, but this brass wasn't new.
That thing was gone, 4 reloaders combing that area, none found an extractor. They said that was pretty unprecedented for HK's. I sent it into the shop in Georgia. Mr. Sam Bass (like the fish he said), told me that generally ruptured casings can crack the frame(!?). I got lighter springs with the extractor, went back to the range the next week.. Carefully loaded it with the same ammo, and proceeded to very carefully, and slowly.. SHOOT THE HELL OUT OF THAT USP! And it went fantastic. 4.3s were fine too, but I'm going to stay to 4.0 or .1 for target.
I will say the only mishap I seem to have on my USP, is the slide locks forward when empty on certain magazines, seemingly when more dirty. Any one else have this? I thought It could also be my thumb placement against the slide release..
Questions now.. Anyone else have ruptured shells on them? Reloaded or not. How bad is it typically? I Know the USP shot a round into its barrel, shot it out, and then proceeded to keep firing. But 1 ruptured round, basically ending a guns function is a real downer. way worse then a FTE FTF..
I suppose this question goes for slam fires too, if you have a slam fire/rupture shell casing, is it going to break ANY gun EVERY time? At least some part of the gun? Cracked frame, extractor, slide, etc?
So my last part to my question, anyone ever manage to proceeded to shoot a box of casings that will rupture through there gun at one time? I have been shooting for over a decade now, never ever had any problems like this.. Happy shooting, thanks
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