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  • wheelgunner
    Member
    • Oct 2005
    • 183

    Anyone have problems with Springfields 1911A1?

    Just purchased a Springfield 1911A1 Mil Spec.

    I put 300 rounds through it on the first outing.

    During the 300 rounds, twice I experienced a double feed.

    Has anyone else experienced this?

    I called Springfield and they told me to send it back, and that it is an extractor problem.

    Huh??? What does the extractor have to do with a double feed? I don't have any problems extracting and ejecting spent cartridges.

    I have a problem with it trying to chamber 2 live rounds.
  • #2
    Pablo
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2005
    • 657

    Originally posted by wheelgunner
    Just purchased a Springfield 1911A1 Mil Spec.

    I put 300 rounds through it on the first outing.

    During the 300 rounds, twice I experienced a double feed.

    Has anyone else experienced this?

    I called Springfield and they told me to send it back, and that it is an extractor problem.

    Huh??? What does the extractor have to do with a double feed? I don't have any problems extracting and ejecting spent cartridges.

    I have a problem with it trying to chamber 2 live rounds.
    this was a brand new gun, right?
    What kind of ammo and magazines are you using?

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    • #3
      SVTNate
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2005
      • 1418

      I have a Springfield TRP, my friend has a Loaded lightweight model. I have been to the range with him almost every time his gun has been fired, since it was new a few months ago. About 1,500 rounds through it now.

      Neither of us has had a single malfunction of any kind.

      I don't see what the extractor has to do with a double feed. I'd put a couple hundred more rounds through the gun, and try some different magazines, before you send the gun to SA. If you must, though, I'm sure they'll take care of it.

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      • #4
        NwG
        Member
        • Nov 2005
        • 321

        +1 for a few hundread more rounds and try a few brands of mags.. I usually don't start messing around with my 1911's until after about 1000 rounds.. By then they seam to really be in there best working order.. My old Kimber custom classic has 12,000+ rounds and only gets better!!!!
        1911.....

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        • #5
          wheelgunner
          Member
          • Oct 2005
          • 183

          I have a Colt 1991A1 and havn't had any problems.

          Yes it is a brand new gun. I was shooting Wolf ammo.

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          • #6
            kalibear
            Yo
            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Oct 2005
            • 604

            Don't use the stock mags that it came with. I've had good experience with Wilson mags
            "Want me to punch-i-size your face, for free?" ~ RF

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            • #7
              Army
              Veteran Member
              • Oct 2005
              • 3915

              Both of mine run like raped apes. The only problems I ever have, is directly ammo related. I use CMC mags exclusively.

              "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself...A murderer is less to fear. The traitor is the plague."......Cicero

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              • #8
                maxicon
                Veteran Member
                • Oct 2005
                • 4661

                I have a Milspec (NM serial number) that's a few years old now, and it's never had any problems except with cheap mags. I replaced the factory mags with Mecgar 8 rounders, and they've been good. The factory mags work OK, but I don't like how they load.

                I'd echo the suggestion to put a few hundred rounds more of different ammo through it, but some 1911s need a bit of tweaking, it seems. Mine doesn't like the Walmart value-pack .45 ammo (reliability's good, but not accuracy), though lots of people have good luck with it.

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                • #9
                  SDlocal
                  Junior Member
                  • Dec 2005
                  • 94

                  Break in

                  You have to Break in 1911's shoot about 500 to 1,000 rounds and report back. Make sure to lube it heavily during this process.

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                  • #10
                    Kruzr
                    In Memoriam
                    • Oct 2005
                    • 1751

                    Originally posted by wheelgunner
                    Just purchased a Springfield 1911A1 Mil Spec.

                    I put 300 rounds through it on the first outing.

                    During the 300 rounds, twice I experienced a double feed.

                    Has anyone else experienced this?

                    I called Springfield and they told me to send it back, and that it is an extractor problem.

                    Huh??? What does the extractor have to do with a double feed? I don't have any problems extracting and ejecting spent cartridges.

                    I have a problem with it trying to chamber 2 live rounds.
                    I'd try it with some other ammo like WWB. Try brass ammo.

                    This can be caused by bad mag springs. Does it happen with more than one magazine?

                    It may also be that the extractor tension is too loose. The extractor is CRITICAL to feeding in a 1911. The round must slip up under the hook as the slide is moving forward. The tension must be enough to keep the round from slipping too far up the breechface but still loose enough to allow the round to slip under the hook into the right position.

                    You may need to check the tension and adjust it as needed. Take a look at this link.
                    Last edited by Kruzr; 12-20-2005, 8:16 PM.

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                    • #11
                      ohsmily
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Apr 2005
                      • 8997

                      Originally posted by wheelgunner
                      I have a Colt 1991A1 and havn't had any problems.

                      Yes it is a brand new gun. I was shooting Wolf ammo.
                      First of all, like other have said, don't worry about malfunctions until after about 500-1000 rounds through the gun...
                      Second, your problem is that you are shooting Wolf ammo...that stuff is perfect for SKS's and AK's...but don't put it through better guns...
                      you just spent about 700 on a 1911 and you are going to skimp a couple cents per round on shi-ty ammo (shi-ty for 1911's, not for SKS, AK's, etc)
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                      • #12
                        wheelgunner
                        Member
                        • Oct 2005
                        • 183

                        Originally posted by ohsmily
                        Second, your problem is that you are shooting Wolf ammo...that stuff is perfect for SKS's and AK's...but don't put it through better guns...
                        you just spent about 700 on a 1911 and you are going to skimp a couple cents per round on shi-ty ammo (shi-ty for 1911's, not for SKS, AK's, etc)
                        .........
                        Wolf ammo has improved, they do have a hunting line and their 22lr ammo is very expensive. Posters in 1911 forums rate wolf 45 ammo as pretty good.




                        I realize that the 1911A1 needs about 500-1000 rounds through it for proper breakin. However a double feed is something I have never experienced before with a single stack magazine. When I called Springfield I told them that I realize that I need to put in 500-1000 rounds. Springfield said that I could try another 100 rounds but they said it probably wouldn't matter and its a problem with the gun...

                        The double feed is with 2 live rounds. As the slide is coming back a live round pops out of the mag. When the slide moves forward it strips a round from the mag and at the same time it pushes the round on top forward. Hows a round come out of the mag when the slide moves rearward?

                        I thought that it might a mag problem, but Springfield says its something else.

                        I am wondering if anyone else has experienced the same problem, and what they did to rectifly the problem.

                        Thanks

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                        • #13
                          RRangel
                          CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 5164

                          If they're paying for it to be fixed go ahead and send it back. All you have to loose with it is some time.

                          Originally posted by wheelgunner
                          Wolf ammo has improved, they do have a hunting line and their 22lr ammo is very expensive. Posters in 1911 forums rate wolf 45 ammo as pretty good.




                          I realize that the 1911A1 needs about 500-1000 rounds through it for proper breakin. However a double feed is something I have never experienced before with a single stack magazine. When I called Springfield I told them that I realize that I need to put in 500-1000 rounds. Springfield said that I could try another 100 rounds but they said it probably wouldn't matter and its a problem with the gun...

                          The double feed is with 2 live rounds. As the slide is coming back a live round pops out of the mag. When the slide moves forward it strips a round from the mag and at the same time it pushes the round on top forward. Hows a round come out of the mag when the slide moves rearward?

                          I thought that it might a mag problem, but Springfield says its something else.

                          I am wondering if anyone else has experienced the same problem, and what they did to rectifly the problem.

                          Thanks

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                          • #14
                            Kruzr
                            In Memoriam
                            • Oct 2005
                            • 1751

                            I'd once again strongly suggest you shoot other ammo and try other mags before do anything or send it anywhere.

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                            • #15
                              BigAL
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2005
                              • 832

                              Originally posted by wheelgunner
                              The double feed is with 2 live rounds. As the slide is coming back a live round pops out of the mag. When the slide moves forward it strips a round from the mag and at the same time it pushes the round on top forward. Hows a round come out of the mag when the slide moves rearward?

                              I thought that it might a mag problem, but Springfield says its something else.
                              Definitely sounds like a mag problem. A round should not just "pop out" of the mag like that. The feed lips should hold the case as it gets fed forward and not let go until the cartridge has moved far enough forward that it cannot also feed the next round. I once had the same problem with some 10 round Glock beater mags where the feed lips had worn. Trying a new mag would be a good idea.

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