Browning hipower

[Sturnovik]

After seeing alot of hipowers lately I'm really interested in one. The more I look up the more I get confused about it though. Does browning make this or does FN have the only rights to producing it? Are there clones you guys recommend? I'm already planning my 21st birthday gift to myself being a Hipower, but cant really figure out what they usually go for or what version/brand to go for. I saw one locally for 480 that was used, an older model. It already sold though.

[mindwip]

Ok well. Here we go. Read this sight it will answer everthing hi-power

http://www.hipowersandhandguns.com/HiPowerComments.html

Hi-powers are great, FN makes them, Browning added there name and charged $200 extra for it. There are some copies, but there is no reason not to get a nice used FN model. I have one made in 87 i believe. Some copies are good but i have no idea which.

You must take out the mag safety and putting in a 18.5 spring and you are gtg.

If you live in or near orange county you can shoot mine!

[Sturnovik]

From what people tell me the mag safety is pretty important in that it is what makes the trigger pull long for a single action? If I remove it wouldn't that void the warranty?

Yea I've been checking these out since I was younger, hopefully they can mount night sights as well?

[mindwip]

From what people tell me the mag safety is pretty important in that it is what makes the trigger pull long for a single action? I

Um i am sorry, but i do not follow at all. The mag safty improves the trigger 10000000% by reducing tension. It does not alter anything.



Warranty? Its you gun, do what you want. Of course you dont have to take it out. But once you shoot with out one you will want yours out.



From the website i quoted above.

Proponents of the magazine safety offer the following arguments in favor of leaving the device intact:
1. A Hi Power gunsmith can put a good trigger pull on a Hi Power without removing the disconnector.

2. Removal might result in possible criminal or civil charges in the event of a "bad" shooting.

3. If in a hand-to-hand struggle over the pistol, it could be disabled by releasing the magazine and might prevent its owner from being shot with his own Hi Power.

4. Some say the trigger return is altered or diminished with the removal of the magazine "safety."



Proponents in favor of its removal suggest:



1. Its removal frequently reduces trigger pull by about 15% and might eliminate a trigger job.

2. Magazines usually drop free with the removal of the magazine disconnect.

3. You could fire the pistol at least once without the magazine under emergency conditions.

4. In the event of a shooting, your Hi Power without the magazine "safety" is no less "safe" than a 1911, Sig-Sauer, Beretta 92, Glock, Springfield XD, and so forth.



I fall with those who remove the magazine disconnect.

[Sturnovik]

I didnt phrase it quite right. I meant to say that I had heard that the mag disconnect is what makes the trigger pull a little bit longer than if I remove it. I actually kinda like the idea of keeping it stock and just getting a trigger job and night sights and if they still even make the older hammer that was circular rather than a spur.

In any case how much do they normally run? I was just on FN's USA website and didn't see it in production, but on the main website, I believe the European one I found it. Are magazines that are 10 rounders easy to come by?

[zfields]

Check out guns america, I got a nice FN marked israli police import for 350

[mindwip]

Ah got you. Really i dont know as my trigger is great! It has a really nice clean break like glass. Short return (not as short as other pistols). Also this is a single action pistol just the way you worded sounds like you think there is a DA too.



Mags i dont know, i already have like 8 mags so i have not needed to look. But are tons of these pistols been made since wwii. I really doubt there is a shortage. Get a used one, really dont buy new, new is cast the old ones are forged. Also i dont consider a trigger job stock. But i will say that the only thing left on my Hi-power is to add night sights. The stock sights are good, but i like night better.

[mindwip]

Check out guns america, I got a nice FN marked israli police import for 350

what he said!

[Sturnovik]

Yea I'm really wanting one in 2 months when I turn 21. I had a choice between this or a 1911 for that ww2 era type pistol and I just wanted to go for this one.

Yea I knew the FN wasn't DA, although I thought I heard of Browning doing ones that were?

Whats the advantage of buying a used one, other than price?

[mindwip]

Price, history, character, no handgun 1 per month limit.

I have some Garands and 30 cal carbines made in 1942-6. I would never trade that chewed up stock for a nice new one. Honest wear adds character.



Think of it this way, you save $300 buying used. Thats 500rd ammo, 3 mags, holster, mag pouch, range time, maybe a pistol class, cleaning kit. Yes its just money, but that money on other things is well spent.



I have bought one new gun in my life and i have more then a few. As you can see i am biased!

[Argonaut]

Browning never made a gun. He was a designer and sold most of his designs to a manufacturer. (Colt, Winchester, FN, Ithaca, Remington) The guns marked Browning are all made by someone else on contract. The early ones in Belgium by FN and later ones in Japan. Always look for Belgium manufacture guns. They are the most desirable.

[Durasteel]

Ah got you. Really i dont know as my trigger is great! It has a really nice clean break like glass. Short return (not as short as other pistols). Also this is a single action pistol just the way you worded sounds like you think there is a DA too.



Mags i dont know, i already have like 8 mags so i have not needed to look. But are tons of these pistols been made since wwii. I really doubt there is a shortage. Get a used one, really dont buy new, new is cast the old ones are forged. Also i dont consider a trigger job stock. But i will say that the only thing left on my Hi-power is to add night sights. The stock sights are good, but i like night better.

Funny, the trigger return on my HP is not only long, but I can't feel the reset at all either. The break is clean, but the takeup is gritty as hell, and the pull is heavy.

Also, you WANT the cast frame. It's stronger than the forged frame. The forged frame couldn't take more than a few thousand rounds of .40 before it started cracking, so FN made a stronger cast frame to solve that.

[Sturnovik]

The guns of america place looks good to start, and mos of those used ones on there that are police trade in's are cast? I plan for the 9mm caliber even though this would be my 3rd 9mm

[mindwip]

I dont shoot 40sw. and thats why you add 18.5 if shooting hot loads. Forged is not weak, its meant for 9mm not 40sw. Using the pistol for the load it was designed for and you will not have issues.


Remember the 228 a 9mm, with stamped side. They could not use that "weak" stamped slide for the 40sw. So we have the 229. But as i recall people love the 228. Again i like the forged for shooting 9mm.


You need your pistol looked at. There is no gritty trigger, smooth as butter. The reset is not as pronounced as say a glock but i can feel it just fine. Do you have your mag safety installed?


I own a hi-power, sig 228, Glock 19 in 9mm. The 3 best lol

[Sturnovik]

Yea I love the look of this gun, I'm really leaning toward it. Is it easy to field strip? I haven't had to field strip anything other than Glocks/Sigs/Beretta's. If I recall its a design very similar to the Colt 1911 disassembly?