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  • 1 SIG fan
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2009
    • 2489

    22/45 vs mk3

    Lookg for a reliable 5ish" bull barrel 22 and settled on these. Want it for fun, practice and mainly a shtf piece. The 22/45 is cheaper and lighter. The mk3 is supposed to be easier to service and does not have a plastic grip/frame(it is quite a bit heavier). The prices are reasonable..

    Any suggestions?
  • #2
    hybridatsun350
    Calguns Addict
    • Apr 2007
    • 5336

    The only real difference is the grip frame. Do you want a 1911-style grip or the heavily angled grip of the MK series? Have you gone and checked them both out yet? I think fiddling around with them will help you make the decision. I really like the classic look of the MK I/II/III, but that's just me!
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    • #3
      Ron-Solo
      In Memoriam
      • Jan 2009
      • 8581

      I prefer the traditional MKIII grip over the 22/45 grip. I have the 5 1/2 bull barrel. I is a nice shooting gun.
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      • #4
        bczrx
        Member
        • Oct 2010
        • 385

        I prefer the 22/45 over the Mark II/III. That is MY preference. Otherwise they are about the same.

        I just thought of something.

        Put a full-length pencil or pen in your hand like it is a bar you are grabbing onto in order to pull something toward you [all fingers over and thumb under pencil/pen].
        Make a fist.
        Hold it out in front of you at arm's length, like your arm is going straight forward in a punch.
        Hold you hand verticle at the end of this phantom punch and lock your wrist in this position.
        Turn you arm at the elbow in toward you without flexing your wrist.
        Observe the angle of the pencil or pen.
        Compare that to the pistol grips in the gun shop.

        When I do this I am holding my wrist in a position to receive a lot of force across the knuckles upon impact with a bad guys body, thus my wrist is braced for 'recoil' forces. When I do this and compare the angle I just identified with the angle of the pistol grip on the Mark II/III and 22/45 it helps me understand why the 22/45 and 1911-type angles feel better to me than the Luger-esque angle of the Mark II/III.

        I don't know if it means anything to anyone else, but it seemed interesting-as inspiration struck.




        Ultimately, you can't go wrong with either gun. Buy what feels best. They will be equally reliable imho.




        As for using this gun as a SHTF gun, shouldn't it have a bit more power?

        I'd use a .22 for rabbits or birds, but I'd want at least a .38sp+P for real SHTF situations. I'd prefer the 9mm/.40S&W/.45acp/.357mag/.44mag calibers if I had to bet my wife or daughters life on the gun. I'd want 2 guns, as soon as I could afford them. In fact, that is what I did 10 years ago.


        If you decide to get two guns and you only have two guns, it would make sense to have similar actions for your daily manual of arms.

        For example, a 22/45 and a 1911 .45acp.
        Of course there are a LOT of handguns with a similar grip angle to a 1911. It is just nice to be used to the safety, slide lock and magazine release being in similar places. And they are both single action pistols. Similar would be a Browning High Power in either 9mm or .40cal, as the angle is about the same and the controls are about the same, with all three being single action pistols.

        There are at least three that are close to the same angles and controls that are DA/SA as well. For example, the CZ75b, the Witness and the HK USP.

        If the Mark II/III felt more natural in your hand the natural pairing is a Luger, but they are finicky and expensive. Glocks have more of a forward cant/angle than many others and may be closer to the Mark II/III angle, with a similar slide release location, similar magazine release and a similar concept of trigger control [not quite SA, but similar], but no external lever-activated safety.

        OR, if you want a .357mag for your hard-core SHTF gun [a GREAT CHOICE, especially in 4" barrel, for all-around fun: .38sp for light range use, or heavy magnum rounds (in a GP100) for zombies] then the natural pairing would be another 6-shot revolver in the same DA/SA or SA configuration, with a similar barrel length.

        Just some thoughts.

        Buy what feels best and enjoy!
        Last edited by bczrx; 01-06-2011, 10:50 AM.
        Where did all the range-time go?

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        • #5
          1 SIG fan
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2009
          • 2489

          Good feeback, thanks.
          The 22/45 it will be

          I have redundant offerings in each of the pistol plus rifle calibers u mentioned. I dot trust my mosquito as a 22 and knew the rugged would hold out. I could hunt small game or defend with that think plus the wife can shoot it and it's a good trainer.

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          • #6
            bczrx
            Member
            • Oct 2010
            • 385

            Originally posted by 1 SIG fan
            Good feeback, thanks.
            The 22/45 it will be

            I have redundant offerings in each of the pistol plus rifle calibers u mentioned. I dot trust my mosquito as a 22 and knew the rugged would hold out. I could hunt small game or defend with that think plus the wife can shoot it and it's a good trainer.
            Cool.

            Glad we could help.

            I'm going to be starting my wife on the 22/45 in a few weeks, but haven't gone out with her yet. I married late and she had a practice husband before me. We've been together 4 years, and it is time to get her out with a .22.

            The good news is she WANTS to go shooting!

            I've read a lot of people having concerns with the Mosquito on the SIG forum, so I think you are moving in the right direction.
            Where did all the range-time go?

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            • #7
              sequoia_nomad
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2010
              • 803

              The takedown is pretty much the same on both. As others have stated, the only real difference is the grip. I prefer the 22/45 myself.

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