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  • ap3572001
    Calguns Addict
    • Jun 2007
    • 6039

    Reloading 45acp and 38.

    I decided to reload again. I did before but sold everything when moved.

    I will only reload 45 ACP and 38 spl.

    I will need EVERYTHING. What is the best way to go ?

    I don't mind to invest in good stuff since I will be using it for a long time ( I hope
  • #2
    shinbone
    Member
    • Dec 2009
    • 281

    I would ask this question in the Reloading subforum.

    IMO for a singlestage, the RCBS Rockchucker Kit + calipers and dies would be a good way to go. For progressive, a Dillon 550B + scale, calipers and dies would be good.
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    • #3
      GUNFREAK
      Member
      • May 2010
      • 405

      I just started reloading as well. I am only doing .45 to start off with eventually moving onto other calibers. I got the Lee breech lock single stage press kit for under $100. It comes with almost everything you need. I also bought a decent digital scale, tumbler and of course dies. Depending on which dies you get you may have to buy the shell plate holder. Lee dies come with it, RCBS does not.
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      • #4
        B Strong
        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
        CGN Contributor
        • Feb 2009
        • 6367

        Originally posted by ap3572001
        I decided to reload again. I did before but sold everything when moved.

        I will only reload 45 ACP and 38 spl.

        I will need EVERYTHING. What is the best way to go ?

        I don't mind to invest in good stuff since I will be using it for a long time ( I hope
        I'd go with a Dillon 550 in .45 acp, with a conversion head in .38 Spl.

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        • #5
          Oceanbob
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Jun 2010
          • 12720

          I think the future of ammo is reloading

          With all these ammo restrictions coming; maybe someday the wacko's will ban components or charge a high TAX on bullets...you never know with these CLOWNS.

          I also used to reload back in the 80s and early 90s. I just stored my 2 press's in a Storage Unit along with a pile of components. Several weeks ago I made the decision you did; get back into reloading...! Got out the machines; ordered some stuff from DILLON and set up in my garage. I recommend getting a DILLON 550B in .45 with a spare toolhead in .38. ....what I like about the 550B is it can change calibers in about 2 minutes. (depending on the primer size). This is a repost from the ammo forum that I posted:

          You probably need to decide three things:

          1. Your budget.
          2. How much you shoot
          3. What's your time worth.?

          If you're a professional making a decent living perhaps your time is worth getting a Progressive Machine. Something that pumps out 500 to 1200 rounds per hour. A good review (you probably already saw this)

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          • #6
            Bill Steele
            Calguns Addict
            • Sep 2010
            • 5028

            Definitely make the ammo and reloading subforum a regular place to go, you can get answers to just about any question you might have regarding reloading. I have an old single stage press and decided to restart reloading recently. I went on that forum and with the search function got answers to every single question.

            I used to load only rifle. Now that I am doing handgun, I am already thinking about a Dillon 550B. For small batches (like 50 or less) the single stage press is fine. For batches of 200 at a time or more (what I want to do now), the Dillon is the way to go. More money up front, money well spent.
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            • #7
              Tzvia
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2006
              • 602

              Been reloading for about 15 years, and what I have concluded is that:

              A: You will either save money, or shoot twice as much for the same money.
              B: Provided that whatever tool purchased is not really junk, it will save time, frustration and/or money.

              I own a XL650 (Dillon rules IMO) and an Redding Big Boss single stage (for bottlenecked rifle reloading). But as good as the Redding is, I am not crazy enough to reload pistol and .223 on it. Sorry, time is money, do you want to shoot or spend all your day off reloading? Get a progressive, either a 550 or 650 and don't look back. You will be able to reload more quickly with less hassle. I only recommend a single stage press for bottleneck rifle reloading. For straight walled pistol, get CARBIDE dies. Spend the extra- it will save time and money because you will not be going through bottles of lube and your media cleaning it off, and you don't have to stop after resizing to clean it, and isn't that the point of a progressive press? The Dillon dies work just fine. Get the powder checker, it beeps on a over/under charge.

              Invest in a good scale. Either the traditional beam or digital, take your pick.

              Invest in a tumbler; I use a Dillon. Oh, and save those plastic netting bags that some veggies like onions come in... Put your brass in the bags, then throw them in the tumbler. To seperate, just lift out the bag and rotate it for a minute to remove the media, done! Also invest in a lead rated mask from Home Depot, and wear it around the tumbler!

              You may find trimming cases a hassle, heck who doesn't. But getting an even crimp relies on the cases being the same length; an initial trim to even up the batch will make the crimp more uniform and setup of the dies in the press less of a hassle. So I got a Lyman with a power tool adapter, so it's motorized and trimming is rather quick. My crimps improved and are more even across the batch.

              Pick up several good reloading data books-Lyman, Speer, Lee. Don't just download from the powder maker's website; the books have more detail, and don't forget the primer flipper.

              Oh, and pick up an inertia bullet puller, just in case Nobody wants to admit a mistake, but mistakes can be made. I would rather pull a bullet or 100, than risk my face.

              I spent a rainy afternoon a few days ago reloading 400 rounds of 45acp, then 100 rounds of 45 Colt. I hate to think of what it would have cost to buy it retail.
              Tzvia

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              • #8
                zdragon
                Member
                • Jan 2010
                • 414

                Originally posted by ap3572001
                I will only reload 45 ACP and 38 spl.

                I will need EVERYTHING. What is the best way to go ?

                )
                did some serious production with just a basic single stage and a hand press(RCBS dies)....a cheap digital scale(frankford arsenal) will definitely speed up your reloading process.
                i'm now set up to reload 9mm with Lee dies(did 200rds last night)....so much fun.

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                • #9
                  Coded-Dude
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 6705

                  I myself am looking at the Lee Classic Turret Press(set the dies and swap the turrets). For now I want to start reloading .45 and .38 but will eventually also be reloading .308.
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                  • #10
                    Synergy
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • May 2008
                    • 14303

                    Take a read here, compares 3 popular progressive presses
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                    • #11
                      EWILKE
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2010
                      • 562

                      Dillon

                      You can never go wrong with a dillon press.

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                      • #12
                        k1dude
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • May 2009
                        • 14771

                        Originally posted by Synergy
                        Take a read here, compares 3 popular progressive presses
                        http://www.comrace.ca/cmfiles/dillon...Comparison.pdf
                        There's a few articles out there like that. Articles that provide unbiased comparisons usually find the Hornady LNL AP (progressive) to be the winner. That's why I bought the Hornady.
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                        • #13
                          Oceanbob
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Jun 2010
                          • 12720

                          Dillon VS Hornady

                          Originally posted by k1dude
                          There's a few articles out there like that. Articles that provide unbiased comparisons usually find the Hornady LNL AP (progressive) to be the winner. That's why I bought the Hornady.
                          Dillon has sold 800,000 press'es. Hornady has sold 38,000 press'es.

                          Dillon costs more; quality costs money. The comparison above is not unbiased and has flaws. The author does mention the Dillon NO BS warranty
                          but fails to address the many problems of the other brands. The author complains about powder bars that 'cost more' when saving time on a quick change. That point is moot because the quick change head kit comes with a powder bar....duh..

                          From a Review on the Hornady just last week: "

                          December 18, 2010 I like the press in general, and have worked to resolve rotation, ejection, primer malfunction, broken handle ,and worn thread problems with Hornady. I paid Hornady an additional $500 for them to send me a warranty replacement. Hornady now states they do not have any units in the factory and will not give me a ship date for the warranty replacement unit that I have paid upfront for. I have paid for 2 Hornady LNL AP presses and have one that partially works. After spending a life time on the phone, not having my phone calls returned,- I find Hornady's business ethics questionable,durability and quailty problems with their presses, and they do not back their warranty in a timely manner "

                          You never hear that sort of problem with DILLON. ..Never.

                          Call Dillon; they answer the phone before the second ring. Explain a problem on a 16 year old press; they will send you a replacement part..THAT DAY. no questions asked.

                          Here's a thread on Dillons no BS warranty:

                          May the Bridges I burn light the way.

                          Life Is Not About Waiting For The Storm To Pass - Its About Learning To Dance In The Rain.

                          Fewer people are killed with all rifles each year (323 in 2011) than with shotguns (356), hammers and clubs (496), and hands and feet (728).

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