Yet another singleshot question

[user123]

If a handgun is purchased under the singleshot configuration, doesn't it reflect as such on the DROS? If for whatever reason the police were to check on the registration of the handgun after it was converted back to semi auto would this be a problem?

I understand people modify their firearms all the time and it's completely legal but modifying a handgun that was meant for a singleshot only to a semi auto seems like a pretty drastic change. If the officer see's that the handgun is registered for singleshot but what he's holding is a semi auto, are there any legal repercussions?

[jbooker9]

No. Single shot is only needed for getting around the roster it is perfectly legal to have the firearm

[foxtrotuniformlima]

Changing a 45ACP to 9x19 would be drastic too but perfectly legal. As long as the final configuration is legal ( ie - no threaded barrel ) you are fine. No one will care.

[user123]

Thank you guys for the replies.

[SJgunguy24]

If a handgun is purchased under the singleshot configuration, doesn't it reflect as such on the DROS? If for whatever reason the police were to check on the registration of the handgun after it was converted back to semi auto would this be a problem?

Not at all

I understand people modify their firearms all the time and it's completely legal but modifying a handgun that was meant for a singleshot only to a semi auto seems like a pretty drastic change. If the officer see's that the handgun is registered for singleshot but what he's holding is a semi auto, are there any legal repercussions?

Nope, I've seen more times then not, a police officer will have no clue as to how that firearm they are holding even works. The type of action or how to unload and make it safe. Most cops are not gun people and even if they were, there is no law that says you cannot modify your firearm into any other legal configuration.

[user123]

Nope, I've seen more times then not, a police officer will have no clue as to how that firearm they are holding even works. The type of action or how to unload and make it safe. Most cops are not gun people and even if they were, there is no law that says you cannot modify your firearm into any other legal configuration.

Thanks for the reply. But while I have you here

What goes into converting a singleshot conversion back to a semi auto? I've seen on other threads where people say do a google search or look at a youtube video but when you google it, all it does is link me to the exact thread where someone asks about converting it back.

What actually goes into a singleshot conversion? From what I've read so far it seems like its:

1. The barrel
2. The magazine
3. A mechanism to keep the magazine "fixed"(Bullet button?)

Without ever even seeing a singleshot conversion pistol, I'm assuming you have to:

1. Change out the barrel which seems pretty straight forward as if you were doing a field strip.
2. Change out the magazine which, if its like a bullet button is straight forward as well.
3. Change out the mechanism(bullet button?)

Am I missing anything?

For #3. How easy is this? I'd like to do this myself and I've put together AR lowers pretty easily without any problems. What type of tools are needed if any? Any specialized armorer's tools?

Thanks in advance to SJgunguy24 @ Valkryie Arms! You guys have a GREAT reputation!

[user123]

I just happened upon this...

http://tablerockarms.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=57&Itemid=60

So from these pictures...

http://tablerockarms.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=60&Itemid=63

it seems that the only thing keeping the magazine "fixed" is a plate and screw on top of the magazine and not by replacing the actual mag release or other internal parts which does make it very easy to convert back...

[bwiese]

If a handgun is purchased under the singleshot configuration, doesn't it reflect as such on the DROS? If for whatever reason the police were to check on the registration of the handgun after it was converted back to semi auto would this be a problem?

It may reflect that somewhere, since it's not Rostered and would need an exemption to be transferred to an ordinary person.

I understand people modify their firearms all the time and it's completely legal but modifying a handgun that was meant for a singleshot only to a semi auto seems like a pretty drastic change. If the officer see's that the handgun is registered for singleshot but what he's holding is a semi auto, are there any legal repercussions?

No. Where do you see anywhere in the law that it's illegal to modify a gun into another legal status?

It's perfectly legal to change a gun's caliber, from single to double action or vice versa, change barrel length, etc. The only prohibited changes would be into AW form, full auto, into unconventional pistol form, pen gun, destructive device, etc.

That being said, I believe the only info that comes up on a cop's MDT about the gun is make/model/serial#

[user123]

No. Where do you see anywhere in the law that it's illegal to modify a gun into another legal status?

I never stated that I saw anything to suggest that it was. I was merely asking the question so that I can better understand how to go about legally purchasing an off roster handgun.

[AceR15]

@OP i spoke to the DOJ prior to ordering my single shot xdm, and they said that it was ok to do any conversion except Banned Fully auto. I described the police officer scenario and they said as long as it was transferred as a single shot conversion it is perfectly legal to own.

Apparently the main concern is that the gun is registered so that they can have a record of your gun on file, the roster is only relevant for shipping to the state of cali, which makes retailers unable to import legally.

Im all in with Valkyrie Arms

[user123]

@OP i spoke to the DOJ prior to ordering my single shot xdm, and they said that it was ok to do any conversion except Banned Fully auto. I described the police officer scenario and they said as long as it was transferred as a single shot conversion it is perfectly legal to own.

Apparently the main concern is that the gun is registered so that they can have a record of your gun on file, the roster is only relevant for shipping to the state of cali, which makes retailers unable to import legally.

Im all in with Valkyrie Arms

Thank you very much for that info.

[AceR15]

no worries i had the same concerns, you wonder why this hasn't been made clearer by now..