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  • mt51
    Junior Member
    • Aug 2010
    • 74

    Poll: Lies about round counts

    I'm curious how many of you when you've either bought or sold a gun on Calguns or via other methods, have you lied about the round counts or been lied to. Or have you known someone else that may have lied about the round counts.

    I've never bought a used gun, but perhaps this survey may change my mind

    NOTE: I made it an anonymous vote so your login is not shown. BE HONEST
    154
    I lied about round counts
    0%
    8
    Never lied but know of someone who has or been lied to
    0%
    87
    Never, all gun owners are all honest people
    0%
    59
  • #2
    himurax13
    Veteran Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 3895

    Hmm, knowingly or unknowingly? I think it would be as easy to prove as unlawful procurement of high cap mags.
    Originally posted by Bumslie
    HK - the best 600 dollar gun, 900 dollars can buy.
    Originally posted by Sleighter
    Getting legal advice from a gun salesman, is like getting medical advice from a janitor at a hospital. Both make about the same per hour and both prove that being around something all day doesn't make you an expert.

    Lifetime NRA member.

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    • #3
      HappyG
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2008
      • 942

      No survey attached.

      There's a difference between a few hundred rounds and a few thousand rounds. I could care less as I don't buy guns just to look at them, but if it were a safe queen in question, yes, it would matter.

      Would you lie about it?

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      • #4
        mt51
        Junior Member
        • Aug 2010
        • 74

        Survey just attached.

        Knowingly lied about round counts. Diff between 1000 and 1100 is not a big deal. Diff between 1000 and 5000 is lying (IMHO).

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        • #5
          TKM
          Onward through the fog!
          CGN Contributor
          • Jul 2002
          • 10657

          Evil opposite of used gun for sale. -500,000 rounds through it.

          As a matter of fact the price is adjusted for the ammo savings you are realizing.

          1980 Ruger MK II 5512, $14.000. Mysteriously well dialed in. Holster matches the factory wear marks.
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          • #6
            knucklehead0202
            Veteran Member
            • Aug 2008
            • 4087

            got all my pistols from my dad so i'm not worried about it. aside from that, who cares about round count. look at it and as long as it's not obviously worn out or hammered, don't worry about it. i couldn't tell you how many rounds i've put through my guns. barely have a rough idea how many miles i put on my car, and it's got a friggin' odometer. a close guess is the best you'll get unless you're buying from someone with OCD. if you count the boxes of ammo you've shot through it, great, but if you have tons of handloads in boxes, ziplocks and stuff, who really keeps track that closely? i dunno.

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            • #7
              jermedic
              Member
              • Dec 2007
              • 291

              I recently sold a Marlin 336 that had an hones 20 rounds thru it so I had an exact count. The only gun I got used was my AR15 and I think it had more than the 300 advertised rounds thru it, but it was in good shape and it's not a safe queen. My other guns, I don't know, but have a ballpark idea of what they have for a round count. Not that any are for sale, but I could guess within 200 rounds probably. I buy my guns to use them, so as long as they are in good shape round count isn't too big of a deal for me. If I were to someday buy a safe queen, I would want an honest round count.
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              • #8
                mt51
                Junior Member
                • Aug 2010
                • 74

                I would say that intent is an important consideration.

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                • #9
                  dascoyne
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2006
                  • 729

                  None of the above.
                  Never lied and don't know of anyone who has lied or been lied to. I don't think everyone's honest.

                  What's the point of this poll?
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                  • #10
                    Bobula
                    Calguns Addict
                    • May 2007
                    • 9386

                    worst poll options ever
                    Originally posted by Kestryll
                    Yeah, don't tell that rat bastard Kestryll, he'll shut it down.

                    Fascist pig....

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                    • #11
                      safewaysecurity
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Jun 2010
                      • 6166

                      woops I accidentally voted for the first one
                      Originally posted by cudakidd
                      I want Blood for Oil. Heck I want Blood for Oil over hand wringing sentiment!
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                      • #12
                        JagerTroop
                        Veteran Member
                        • Nov 2007
                        • 3922

                        Didn't vote.

                        There was no option for: I exagerated round count to be sure not to underestimate.

                        Karma is a motherf*cker. I've been lied to before about round count, but I refuse to misrepresent anything I'm selling.
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                        Welcome to class.
                        Originally posted by bdsmchs
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                        Originally posted by IrishPirate
                        stop looking to the internet to tell you everything you should do.....sack up and just do what you want!!!!!

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                        • #13
                          762.DEFENSE
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Aug 2010
                          • 6314

                          Originally posted by Bobula
                          worst poll options ever
                          +1 Agreed.

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                          • #14
                            Scratch705
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • May 2009
                            • 12537

                            i shot between 1-1000 on my guns...... probably more on my 22lr

                            since i don't plan on selling them, i don't keep count. i can barely remember what i ate yesterday, no way i'm going to remember how many rounds i fired months ago.
                            Originally posted by leelaw
                            Because -ohmigosh- they can add their opinions, too?
                            Originally posted by SoCalSig1911
                            Preppers canceled my order this afternoon because I called them a disgrace... Not ordering from those clowns again.
                            Originally posted by PrepperGunShop
                            Truthfully, we cancelled your order because of your lack of civility and your threats ... What is a problem is when you threaten my customer service team and make demands instead of being civil. Plain and simple just don't be an a**hole (where you told us to shove it).

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                            • #15
                              nn3453
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2009
                              • 2245

                              This crap is generally cause by noobs who don't know that handguns are not precision rifles and insist on low round counts when they buy. A S&W revolver with 10k or heck even 25-30k rounds through it does not need the barrel replaced if the timing it not off or it is not damaged in any way. I have a model 15 that has been touched by more hands than a $2 Brooklyn hooker, but it still shoots pretty accurate for my needs. People want to feel good about guns they buy and this leads to sellers making up round counts.

                              I keep track of round counts only on rifles that shoot hot like 22-250 and so on so I can replace the barrel when necessary. Handgun? No chance. If I am ever selling one, if you ask me for round count, I'll tell you I don't know (unless I genuinely never fired it much). Inspect it, check the timing, cylinder gap, action, slide, barrel and make up your own mind.
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