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  • GammaRei
    Veteran Member
    • May 2007
    • 4956

    Rock Island 1911

    I was messing with my 1911 yesterday and noticed something odd. I was able to drop the hammer on the 1911 single handed. Which is odd since your thumb would have to go up to the hammer therefore skipping the beaver tail safety on the rear. I tried it today and was able to reproduce it 100% of the time. This is odd to me. Can anyone else drop the hammer on their 1911 without the beaver tail safety?

    - G
    A vote is like a rifle: its usefulness depends upon the character of the user.
    - Theodore Roosevelt

    Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free.
    - Ronald Reagan
  • #2
    pepsi2451
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2006
    • 1633

    If you pull the hammer back all the way with your thumb it should hit the safety and allow you to pull the trigger. You should not be able to pull the trigger unless the safety is being pressed, either by your hand or by the hammer.
    Last edited by pepsi2451; 10-15-2010, 5:44 PM.

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    • #3
      OneSevenDeuce
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2010
      • 2288

      Yeah, pulling the hammer back with your firing hand actuates the grip safety. It's the same on all 1911s.
      What do you mean my birth certificate expired?

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      • #4
        Gator
        Junior Member
        • Mar 2010
        • 3

        mine would fire without the grip safety engaged as well. its been in the shop a month now and am really wondering whats the deal with it. finding it hard to believe how so many people swear by these things. you get what you pay for i guess...

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        • #5
          vega
          Veteran Member
          • Oct 2005
          • 2972

          Originally posted by Gator
          mine would fire without the grip safety engaged as well. its been in the shop a month now and am really wondering whats the deal with it. finding it hard to believe how so many people swear by these things. you get what you pay for i guess...
          Want to sell it?

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          • #6
            mixwell
            Member
            • Jan 2010
            • 213

            Originally posted by GammaRei
            I was messing with my 1911 yesterday and noticed something odd. I was able to drop the hammer on the 1911 single handed. Which is odd since your thumb would have to go up to the hammer therefore skipping the beaver tail safety on the rear. I tried it today and was able to reproduce it 100% of the time. This is odd to me. Can anyone else drop the hammer on their 1911 without the beaver tail safety?

            - G
            Not sure exactly what you're mentioning but I have been able to decock the hammer but I had to use a portion of my thumb on the ext grip safety on my 1911 but that was a youtube video challenge to cock the hammer, decock, press check and eventually 1 hand field strip... If you had enough pressure on the grip safety you can do it but if you help the gun carefully to not actuate the grip safety then you should not be able to drop the hammer via pulling the trigger.. I don't know if this relates to your problem but yea...

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            • #7
              1forall
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2009
              • 784

              @ Gator, Lol...but really do you want to sell it? Which model is it?
              Last edited by 1forall; 10-15-2010, 10:22 PM.
              "Only a fool leans upon his own misunderstanding."- Bob Marley

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              • #8
                Gator
                Junior Member
                • Mar 2010
                • 3

                its just the base gi model in .45. i dont think im gonna part with the rock until i can replace it with another 1911.

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                • #9
                  redcliff
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 5676

                  If you can pull the trigger and drop the hammer without the grip safety being depressed by either your hand or by first over-cocking the hammer to contact the grip safety than your grip safety is not functioning properly and needs to be repaired.

                  Hold the EMPTY cocked and unlocked pistol so that the grip safety is definitely not being touched and pull the trigger; if the hammer falls the grip safety is out of spec. It will either have to be welded to add more material or replaced.
                  "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
                  "What we get away with isn't usually the same as what's good for us"
                  "An extended slide stop is the second most useless part you can put on a 1911"

                  "While Ruger DA revolvers may be built like a tank, they have the aesthetics of one also,
                  although I suppose there are a few tanks which I owe an apology to for that remark"

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                  • #10
                    bigbob76
                    Veteran Member
                    • Dec 2007
                    • 3954

                    Originally posted by Gator
                    mine would fire without the grip safety engaged as well. its been in the shop a month now and am really wondering whats the deal with it. finding it hard to believe how so many people swear by these things. you get what you pay for i guess...
                    It's not hard to pay extra if you ask me. The market is brutally competitive, as it should be. When times get hard quality control is often cut back in the budget I guess. From what I've seen though Rock Island looks like a lot of bang for the buck.
                    If you can't explain it simply you don't understand it well enough. Albert Einstein

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                    • #11
                      GammaRei
                      Veteran Member
                      • May 2007
                      • 4956

                      Originally posted by redcliff
                      If you can pull the trigger and drop the hammer without the grip safety being depressed by either your hand or by first over-cocking the hammer to contact the grip safety than your grip safety is not functioning properly and needs to be repaired.

                      Hold the EMPTY cocked and unlocked pistol so that the grip safety is definitely not being touched and pull the trigger; if the hammer falls the grip safety is out of spec. It will either have to be welded to add more material or replaced.
                      Seems to be whats happening.

                      - G
                      A vote is like a rifle: its usefulness depends upon the character of the user.
                      - Theodore Roosevelt

                      Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free.
                      - Ronald Reagan

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                      • #12
                        pepsi2451
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2006
                        • 1633

                        Originally posted by GammaRei
                        Seems to be whats happening.

                        - G
                        It should be covered under the warranty, I would definitely send it in. Luckily I haven't had to test their warranty but I have heard good things.

                        Originally posted by Gator
                        mine would fire without the grip safety engaged as well. its been in the shop a month now and am really wondering whats the deal with it. finding it hard to believe how so many people swear by these things. you get what you pay for i guess...
                        Really a month and they aren't even keeping you posted? That sucks. Hope everything works out and you get your pistol back soon.

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                        • #13
                          Rekrab
                          Valar Dohaeris
                          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                          • May 2009
                          • 5534

                          That's pretty strange. I've never seen that issue with mine.
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                          • #14
                            JAGGUY
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2008
                            • 1548

                            Contact Ivan or Arnel at Armscor and you will be taken care of. A great warranty service.
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                            • #15
                              vincentk
                              Member
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 147

                              I sure hope a solution is found to this, because I'm really close to getting an RIA 1911 Tactical, and this would change my decision if it happens repeatedly.

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