Help, Potentially Defective Glock

[imtheomegaman]

Plastic has nothing to do with your problem. Take a class and stop wasting ammo.

Harsh much?

[imtheomegaman]

Sapo, I'm not a smith, but that doesn't look right (the wear on the mags). Do you have anyone you know that has some experience shooting, have them put a few downrange to eliminate anything you may be doing.

Short of that...send that bad boy in for repair, Glock will stand behind it.

[mif_slim]

Help, Potentially Defective Glock

BLASPHEMER!!







but I'd say ammo too.

[shortround1]

Ok, I am aware of limp writing and I have done it a few times where I noticed it for sure. I will pay more attention to the issue along with getting my ammo from a different source, I have shot a wide variety of junk ammo (factory and reloads) and will just stick to typical range ammo brands now. I don't really know anyone with a lot of pistol shooting experience or I would get some pointers. But maybe I'll ask a friendly face at the range I shot at in Elk Grove. Taking a class is not going to work out right now but I'll reconsider it the beginning of next year.

Anyway, can some fellow Glock owners look at the pics of my mags and tell me if gun biting into the plastic is typical? The pictures make it seem slightly less worse than it is but these are the mags that came with it and each has less than 400 rounds through it.




Thanks for the advice

My g19 mags have some slight scratch marks in the same place... not to the extent of yours however (and I've use mine for 9 years). They're always on the left side for me, I imagine it's from how I push the mags into place, however, I've never had a failure with mine. I'd write to glock and see what they say.

[peter95]

it doesn't look right, but i can guarantee you that it has nothing to do with the problems you are having.

My primary vote would be Limp Wristing as you are shooting.

Does this happen as soon as you start shooting or it starts happening after a hundred rounds or so.

many people like to think otherwise, but this is quite common.

Id say have someone else you may know with a glock shoot it a few times and see if it happens to them too.

[blakdawg]

Are those factory Glock mags? I don't have a G19, but I have a G23 (same frame size, but .40 S&W instead of 9mm) and the plastic molding details as well as the size/shape of the metal insert don't look especially similar. OTOH, the only mags I have immediately at hand for the G23 are pre-2000 hicaps, so perhaps they've changed things in the intervening 10+ years.

Most (all?) of the problems I've had with misfeeds, failures to extract, etc., on any gun (Glock and otherwise) have been traceable to problems with cleaning or lubrication. With respect to lubrication, more is not necessarily better. It can take a little while to figure out exactly how and where a gun likes/needs to be lubricated for best effect. ("That's what she said..." )

[vintagearms]

Buy a new factory mag and buy a box of Speer gold dot. If neither of these solve your issues then I would start looking at taking it to a Glock Armorer for further testing. The only double feed related issues I have seen were underpowered ammo and/or mag related. Also, maybe try another shooter familiar with Glocks. I havent been able to limpwrist a Glock personally, but like anything else, it doesnt mean it couldnt happen.

[Mr. Meeseeks]

Yeah man, it really sounds like user error. The only pistol I've ever limp wristed was a Glock, I'm not afraid to admit it.

Greg-Dawg is just speaking the truth- he knows his Glocks. No reason to get defensive. There's a reason there's an acronym just for him: IBGD

[Gryff]

Greg-Dawg is just speaking the truth- he knows his Glocks. No reason to get defensive. There's a reason there's an acronym just for him: IBGD

You can speak the truth without being rude.

Sapo, it's totally possible that there is a problem with the gun, but the #1 failure I've seen with Glocks is limp-wristing.

There was a good suggestion about having an experienced shooter try the gun to confirm the diagnosis. Otherwise, I would try the following:

1) Grip the gun like you are shaking hands during a business introduction. You don't want to grip it like you're trying to strangle it, but you also don't want a weak grip that has little or no effort.

2) Make sure you are using a stance that is slightly aggressive. By this, I mean that your center of gravity is shifted slightly forward (picture holding a ladder for a buddy while he's up on it) rather than backward. You can always tell the new or infrequent shooters at the range because they lean slightly backwards when they shoot. A backwards body position provides no benefits, provides an unstable platform, and slows down your ability to bring the sights back on target.

[GlockBlocker]

+1 for limp wristing. go out and shoot some more with that in mind and see if you can can reproduce the issue when you are focusing on using a very firm grip.

someone here put it best as: hold it firm enough so someone can't knock it out of your hand.

[sequoia_nomad]

You can speak the truth without being rude.

What exactly was so offensive about Greg-Dawg's statement? Too many guys getting emo on here when slapped with the truth. This site is about guns, not a support group for those with low self esteem.

[RollingCode3]

What exactly was so offensive about Greg-Dawg's statement? Too many guys getting emo on here when slapped with the truth. This site is about guns, not a support group for those with low self esteem.

+1,000,000

[blakdawg]

For comparison, here are two shots of a similar area on a factory G23 mag that's approx 12 years old.
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[redcliff]

The weapon seems to be short stroking. It could be limp wristing but it could be the ammunition is underpowerred, or it could be the slide is slowing down from shaving the magazine feed lips each pass.

I'm no Glock expert but why would the magazine apparently sit too high? Bad magazine catch?

[Greg-Dawg]

Greg-dawg speaketh the truth. Things I look for from original posters: post count, new gun and mistakes that are fundamental...are results from lack of the Basics of Pistols 101.

That's the main root of most gun problems. Especially for first timers.

To the OP you've already been given some solutions and now go apply them...especially the training part. And who knows, if you ask the range officer for some help...politely asking, they can give you a discount. Lastly, if I hurt your feelings, then get over it. Tough love baby. You'll appreciate it at the end.