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  • BuckTurgidson
    Junior Member
    • Jun 2010
    • 36

    Kimber Quality Decline?

    Kimber makes beautiful pistols. But I've seen a number of posts on various gun websites that claim Kimber build quality has declined. Those who make this claim don't bother to explain why. So I ask you wonderful fellahs, has the quality and/or reliability of Kimber 1911 pistols taken a dive and if so, why exactly?
  • #2
    Greg-Dawg
    Banned
    • Oct 2006
    • 7793

    Rusty barrels due to oxidation...I've seen it multiple times.

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    • #3
      Noobert
      Veteran Member
      • Jan 2009
      • 3342

      Probably because of the economy, and companies start finding ways to cut costs
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      • #4
        BuckTurgidson
        Junior Member
        • Jun 2010
        • 36

        Originally posted by Greg-Dawg
        Rusty barrels due to oxidation...I've seen it multiple times.
        Sure, I've seen rusty barrels, in a number of guns. But why would this be a quality issue rather than the result of poor maintenance?

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        • #5
          BuckTurgidson
          Junior Member
          • Jun 2010
          • 36

          Originally posted by Noobert
          Probably because of the economy, and companies start finding ways to cut costs
          Right. What exactly are the cost cutting measures?

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          • #6
            Mr. Meeseeks
            Veteran Member
            • Jan 2008
            • 2951

            MIM parts, is usually what most 1911nistas complain about. I've had a personal experience with a MIM firing pin stop on a Springfield GI, and yeah it sucked- cracked down the center after 500+/- rounds and lots of dry firing.

            I used to rent an early model Custom II at my local pistol range, man that thing was sweet.
            Last edited by Mr. Meeseeks; 10-07-2010, 5:53 PM.

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            • #7
              BuckTurgidson
              Junior Member
              • Jun 2010
              • 36

              Originally posted by loosewreck
              MIM parts, is usually what most 1911nistas complain about. I've had a personal experience with a MIM firing pin stop on a Springfield GI, and yeah it sucked- cracked down the center after 500+/- rounds and lots of dry firing.

              I used to rent an early model Custom II at my local pistol range, man that thing was sweet.
              Ah, thanx for that specific infomation! Now that's what I'm talkin' 'bout!

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              • #8
                Ascout
                Junior Member
                • Sep 2010
                • 79

                Have a CDPII "custom shop" gun. Only "cheap" part on it is the plastic "A1" backstrap, but that's more for weight.

                Most forgiving .45 with regard to ammo I've ever fired. Digested 9 of 10 commercial and personal reload types with only FTF on MagTech, which I don't care for anyway.

                Very accurate for a 3" barrel.
                Last edited by Ascout; 10-07-2010, 7:07 PM.

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                • #9
                  JanG
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 1005

                  i have a warrior II with 600 rds and i have yet to experience any problems with it. it's probably just purists and snobs that complain about mim or other "cheap" material parts. take care of the gun and it should take care of you. i try to shoot it as much as i can so i can find faults within the 1 year warranty
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                  • #10
                    Mr. Meeseeks
                    Veteran Member
                    • Jan 2008
                    • 2951

                    Glad I could help, it really depends on where the MIM part is used. I personally don't really care if a pistol has them or not, but in that particular case it was in a high stress area like the firing pin stop, so it was kind of ridiculous, however it was an easy part to replace.

                    Originally posted by BuckTurgidson
                    Ah, thanx for that specific infomation! Now that's what I'm talkin' 'bout!

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                    • #11
                      glockman19
                      Banned
                      • Jun 2007
                      • 10486

                      The only reason you hear that is because they make and sell more 1911's than any other manufacturer.

                      Of my 5 Kimbers I only had minor issues with a Pro Carry II, after contacting Dennis @ kimber it was sent in and since I've gotten it back has run flawlessly.

                      Check out the m1911 forums for more info:

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                      Last edited by glockman19; 10-07-2010, 8:17 PM.

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                      • #12
                        Rhatical
                        Member
                        • Mar 2010
                        • 182

                        Not based on my experience with a 9 month old Eclipse Custom II - has been outstanding!

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                        • #13
                          PingPongBob
                          Junior Member
                          • Jun 2009
                          • 71

                          Here's six pages for you.

                          OK guys and gals. Here we have a thread to post the problems you've had along with what it took to fix them. This is not here to be a stomping ground for customer service complaints or for general complaints. Technical information relating to these fixes is welcome, along with helpful pictures...
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                          • #14
                            erratikmind
                            Member
                            • Feb 2010
                            • 325

                            Love my new Kimber Stainless Target II in 9mm. I have shot 500 flawless rounds since getting it last Saturday. This blaster is very accurate, to say the least.

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                            • #15
                              Prowler
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2006
                              • 2099

                              Thousands of rounds through my Tactical Custom ll, never failed.
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