CZ75 B carry question

[Jimmy Deuce]

No I do not intended to carry this pistol as I have no ccw. How do you carry CZ75 B safely ? As it is not a double action only and has no decocker. Would it be like the 1911 cocked , round in chamber with safety on? Just a random question as I was bored.

[gunsnrovers]

When I had mine, I had no concerns with it cocked and locked.

[bala762]

Cocked and locked. 1911 style.

[mblat]

loaded, chambered with hummer down.

While it is true that it doesn't have a decocker, it is very easy to decock it by holding hummer with the thumb, pressing trigger, releasing hummer then releasing trigger.

I understand that it sounds scary, but as the matter of fact it is very easy to do with little practice AND according to cz manual it is the way to do it. Just point muzzle to the safe direction.

Come to think about it I always keep hammer "half-way up". It takes several pounds out of that long DA.

[Wulf]

If a gun doesn't have a decocker, decocking manually shouldent be attempted anywhere but with the muzzle pointed at the berm; unrealistic for day to day carry. The best way to think of the CZ type guns are "Cocked and Locked Single Action with Restrike Capability"

[mblat]

If a gun doesn't have a decocker, decocking manually shouldent be attempted anywhere but with the muzzle pointed at the berm; unrealistic for day to day carry. The best way to think of the CZ type guns are "Cocked and Locked Single Action with Restrike Capability"

And that is why? You load at home/office/safe place whatever. You decock. You holster the gun.
If somehow you end up in situation when you hummer goes up ( I hope not!) then you either select other safe place to decock, or like you said lock it and wait untill you get to safe place.
What is wrong with that?

[Paradiddle]

First thing - it's hAmmer. For a second I thought this thread involved getting a BJ before you carried your CZ75.

You can safetly decock (no pun intended) a CZ75 just like you can ANY auto before the day's of de-cockers. With common sense and practice.

Jeff

[gotgunz]

As stated: you can either carry cocked and locked (ala 1911) or decock and carry like you would any other DA auto (sig, beretta 92 etc).

I personally carry my CZ75B 40 S&W hammer down on a loaded chamber. Even though I carry a 1911 more often the difference in the two is not a hinderance.

If you dont have the skills to thumb down the hammer on a loaded chamber perhaps you should re-evaluate your chosen hobby of choice. It doenst take a rocket scientist to perform this with proper handling technics.

[Wulf]

And that is why? You load at home/office/safe place whatever. You decock. You holster the gun.
If somehow you end up in situation when you hummer goes up ( I hope not!) then you either select other safe place to decock, or like you said lock it and wait untill you get to safe place.
What is wrong with that?

Decocking by pulling the trigger and thumbing the hammer down is asking for trouble IMHO; all the safety's are off, and the hammer is coming down. You're violating the trigger on the finger rule, and while the direction may be safe, its probably not legal, appropriate, or consequence free if your thumb slips. Its a procedure that walks the ragged edge of firearm safety, sacrificing all the normal mechanical and procedural safety measures in favor ergonomically awkward, dynamic movement that the gun wasnt designed for. I'm sure with enough practice you could become reasonably proficient at it, but I've got better things to practice on the range and I'm not going to practice it off the range.

If a gun doesn't have a decocker, decocking should not be part of the normal handling procedures portion of the manual of arms.

[mblat]

Decocking by pulling the trigger and thumbing the hammer down is asking for trouble IMHO; all the safety's are off, and the hammer is coming down. You're violating the trigger on the finger rule, and while the direction may be safe, its probably not legal, appropriate, or consequence free if your thumb slips. Its a procedure that walks the ragged edge of firearm safety, sacrificing all the normal mechanical and procedural safety measures in favor ergonomically awkward, dynamic movement that the gun wasnt designed for. I'm sure with enough practice you could become reasonably proficient at it, but I've got better things to practice on the range and I'm not going to practice it off the range.

If a gun doesn't have a decocker, decocking should not be part of the normal handling procedures portion of the manual of arms.

Well... I guess we will have to agree to disagree on this.
And it literally takes 10 or attempts on empty chamber to become comfortable enough with procedure....

[elsolo]

Decocking by pulling the trigger and thumbing the hammer down is asking for trouble IMHO; all the safety's are off, and the hammer is coming down. You're violating the trigger on the finger rule, and while the direction may be safe, its probably not legal, appropriate, or consequence free if your thumb slips. Its a procedure that walks the ragged edge of firearm safety, sacrificing all the normal mechanical and procedural safety measures in favor ergonomically awkward, dynamic movement that the gun wasnt designed for. I'm sure with enough practice you could become reasonably proficient at it, but I've got better things to practice on the range and I'm not going to practice it off the range.

If a gun doesn't have a decocker, decocking should not be part of the normal handling procedures portion of the manual of arms.

"the gun wasn't designed for it" ???

Why would it even have DA then, in case a primer needs two hits?

The decker assembly is an afterthought that the gun wasn't desgned for, eliminate one of the two hammer hooks and hope no mechanical problems occur when you use a lever to drop the hammer much faster than you would if you lowered it by hand.

Just keep it pointed in a safe direction, just like when you load the chamber; and use TWO hands instead of thumbing it down with your strong hand thumb.

Everybody that shoots USPSA or IPSC production class has to do it before every course of fire, obviously it's unsafe, illegal, and not part of any routine gunhandling.

[mumbleypeg]

None of my weapons designed by John M Browning have a decocker. This includes M35 and 1911 and Colt .380 Govt.

None of my Revolvers, be they single or double action, have a decocker.

My Cz 75b SA doesn't have a decocker, neither does my CZ85.

Have I been handling my weapons incorrectly by manually decocking? Like my mom always said...."everyday is a school day". Thanks for the heads up.

[maxicon]

Another vote for hammer down on a full chamber, but it's a personal preference for that vs. cocked and locked. I like the long first pull on a defensive gun.

Yes, there's some additional risk in decocking any gun with a round in the chamber, but I've done it an uncountable number of times since I was a kid (over 40 years now), with no mishaps.

Safest way is to have your finger in front of the hammer to catch it if it drops, and release the trigger as soon as it releases the hammer. Once you no longer have the trigger pulled back, the FP safety on most modern guns will prevent an ND even if the hammer drops. You still have to have it pointed in a safe direction, of course.

[dwtt]

Decocking by pulling the trigger and thumbing the hammer down is asking for trouble IMHO; all the safety's are off, and the hammer is coming down. You're violating the trigger on the finger rule, and while the direction may be safe, its probably not legal, appropriate, or consequence free if your thumb slips.

This is the CZ-75B that we're talking about. Do it like the manual says and it's safe because the firing pin is blocked when the trigger is released. That's the difference between the 75B and 75. If the thumb slips while lowering the hammer, there's no discharge because the firing pin is blocked, if the user does it like the manual says to.