Colt Combat Commander in CA?

[ExarKunONe]

Hello, I have recently inherited a Colt Combat Commander and am trying to bring it into CA. When I talked to my local dealer he asked me if it was on the CA legal list. When I looked for a list online all I could find was this: http://certguns.doj.ca.gov/

I cant tell weather my Combat Commander is the one listed but I'm wondering if this even applies to me. It says

"Private party transfers, curio/relic handguns, certain single-action revolvers, and pawn/consignment returns are exempt from this requirement."

Does that mean that the list only applies to guns bought and or sold in CA through a dealer? Also do I still need to ship it to and from an FFL?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

[Quiet]

"Private party transfers, curio/relic handguns, certain single-action revolvers, and pawn/consignment returns are exempt from this requirement."

This applies to handguns already in CA.

If it's out of state, it needs to go through a FFL dealer, therefore it needs to be on the approved list.

The approved list applies to handguns coming into CA.

[jdberger]

I'm not so sure. I think that if it is inherited from a parent then it is exempt from the Approved List. I'll check....

Do you have the exact model number of the gun? This might all be moot.

[bear]

Easiest way, is to go get it and bring it legally back with you.
Then file the ex post facto paperwork, the form required by DOJ, a fee too I think. Possession is 9 points of the law, as they say.

I have the form on one of my other PCs, but I'm sure somebody can point it out to us with a link. It was a little obscure to find on the DOJ web-site, as I recall.

[randy]

Bear is correct. If the gun was left to you from your Mom or Dad bring it in and do the paper work from the DOJ website. No ffl needed no waiting period.

[jdberger]

Easiest way, is to go get it and bring it legally back with you.
Then file the ex post facto paperwork, the form required by DOJ, a fee too I think. Possession is 9 points of the law, as they say.

I have the form on one of my other PCs, but I'm sure somebody can point it out to us with a link. It was a little obscure to find on the DOJ web-site, as I recall.

Here ya go. Record of interfamilial transfer (or some BOF gobbledegook title). Anyway, click the link.

Please note that I'm pretty sure that there are restrictions on who can transfer to you -
Mom and Dad = OK;
great uncle Cletus = Not OK.

[ExarKunONe]

After calling Colt with the serial number I've discovered that this is a 1976 Combat Commander .45 and is probably not on the CA approved list. The question of weather the lit applies to bringing guns into CA still applies. I would have to ship it because I'm not going home anytime soon. I've recently moved here too. Is there any way around the FFL shipping without going and picking it up yourself?

[ExarKunONe]

I just got off the phone with the California DOJ. The man on the phone said that the list only applies to dealer inventory guns. There is no problem importing guns not on the list into California by private party transfer. Even if you ship it through an FFL. Thank you for all of your help!

[Maddog5150]

holy **** really? do you have the agents name? There are so many handguns I want to buy and that just left a loop hole large enough to drive a mac truck through.

Note thought hat DOJ agents arnt always right. I was told by DOJ that in order to FFL a gun into the state it HAS to be on the approved list. If it does go the way you said then shweet. Im going to get on the phone with my brother and have him start sending me guns.

[s281c]

I just got off the phone with the California DOJ. The man on the phone said that the list only applies to dealer inventory guns. There is no problem importing guns not on the list into California by private party transfer. Even if you ship it through an FFL. Thank you for all of your help!

You might confirm that, as it sounds like they are only taking into account CA laws, you still have to deal with the federal laws once you cross state borders.

My understanding has always been that if the dealer receives a gun from out of state, doesn't matter what type of transaction,it is logged into their bound book and becomes a dealer sale instead of a PPT, their are a few exceptions, such as a gift from your imediate family.

Before you go ahead with this, see if you can get the agent you talked to, to put it in writing, as what they say on the phone really has no legal standing, then run it by the dealer that your going to transfer through.

[atlas]

With respect to this situation if he is inheriting from a parent or grandparent then he should be clear of the Feds with respect to crossing borders. Then the state inter familiar form should be all thats needed. He could just FEDEX it to himself couldn't he?

My understanding has always been that if the dealer receives a gun from out of state, doesn't matter what type of transaction,it is logged into their bound book and becomes a dealer sale instead of a PPT, their are a few exceptions, such as a gift from your imediate family.

Can anyone point me to anything in writing about this exception? I have talked to someone who has done this, but have yet to convince an FFL that its something viable. A letter or piece of law would be great.

[s281c]

With respect to this situation if he is inheriting from a parent or grandparent then he should be clear of the Feds with respect to crossing borders. Then the state inter familiar form should be all thats needed. He could just FEDEX it to himself couldn't he?



Can anyone point me to anything in writing about this exception? I have talked to someone who has done this, but have yet to convince an FFL that its something viable. A letter or piece of law would be great.

You still have to go through an FFL if you cross state borders, because of the DROS issue,

Try this thread look at the second page, Dr. Lunde has a brief explanation about how he accomplished it.

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=39317