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  • CaliforniaSelfDefense
    Junior Member
    • Jun 2010
    • 6

    Loading firearms question

    I work as an armed security guard 4 days a week and I have a question about loading my firearm.

    When i get to work I chamber a round and when I am off of work I de-chamber the round. I do this 4 days a week. How will it affect the same 1-2 rounds that I am chambering? Is this an Ok practice as far as my firearm/ammunition is concerned? Should I use a rotation of more than the 1 or 2 rounds that I am using on a weekly basis?

    What are your suggestions/concerns? Thanks.
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  • #2
    OneSevenDeuce
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2010
    • 2288

    It shouldn't affect your rounds at all. Just make sure you chamber your rounds from the magazine and not by hand.
    What do you mean my birth certificate expired?

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    • #3
      plan-b
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2009
      • 680

      Bullet set-back is the real risk. When the nose of the round rams into the feedramp over and over again, the bullet can slowly creep back into the case. If/when it gets fired, you could potentially have an overpressure situation. Anecdotal evidence (if you believe all the internets) says that .40 is slightly more prone to overpressure from set-back than .45 or 9mm. If you have calipers and can measure the rounds that you chamber and re-chamber, you can compare against standard rounds to see if the bullets are creeping back.

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      • #4
        OneSevenDeuce
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2010
        • 2288

        ^^^ That might start to be a problem after years and years, but I'd bet even then it wont be an issue.
        What do you mean my birth certificate expired?

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        • #5
          SexualChocolate
          Member
          • Jan 2010
          • 282

          I have read from numerous places that this is a bad practice as stated above due to bullet set back.

          Is there a reason you don't keep the weapon with one in the chamber all the time?

          What kind of pistol is it?

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          • #6
            fennecfrank
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2010
            • 1787

            Originally posted by plan-b
            Bullet set-back is the real risk. When the nose of the round rams into the feedramp over and over again, the bullet can slowly creep back into the case. If/when it gets fired, you could potentially have an overpressure situation. Anecdotal evidence (if you believe all the internets) says that .40 is slightly more prone to overpressure from set-back than .45 or 9mm. If you have calipers and can measure the rounds that you chamber and re-chamber, you can compare against standard rounds to see if the bullets are creeping back.
            +1 to this post.

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            • #7
              OneSevenDeuce
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2010
              • 2288

              I will say that I loaded the same 1 or 2 rounds into my weapon for 16 months in Iraq when I left the wire. When I was preparing to go home and blasting some ammo those 1 or 2 rounds worked fine. In real life a lot of these technical risks don't mean much. But hey, nothing wrong with rotating your rounds if you want to be double sure. Shoot your carry ammo at the range and replace it when you leave. Easy way to ensure that you always have new rounds.
              What do you mean my birth certificate expired?

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              • #8
                ir0nclash86
                Veteran Member
                • May 2010
                • 3601

                Originally posted by OneSevenDeuce
                It shouldn't affect your rounds at all. Just make sure you chamber your rounds from the magazine and not by hand.
                How come you can't chamber the round by hand?

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                • #9
                  SixtyDashOne
                  Member
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 262

                  Every now and then if I've chambered the same round more than a few times, I will drop it in my range bag and replace it with a fresh round, just in case. I'd rather lose a 50 cent round every so often than risk damaging my gun or injuring myself due to an overpressure situation from bullet setback.
                  Originally posted by tuna quesadilla
                  Sure, a good 1911 will feed FMJ ammo flawlessly, and some of them will even feed JHP. But they lack the features that make the Glock the excellent pistol that it is. A 1911 is an enthusiast's toy, not a serious combat pistol.

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                  • #10
                    OneSevenDeuce
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2010
                    • 2288

                    Originally posted by ir0nclash86
                    How come you can't chamber the round by hand?
                    It can damage the extractor over time.
                    What do you mean my birth certificate expired?

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                    • #11
                      ir0nclash86
                      Veteran Member
                      • May 2010
                      • 3601

                      Originally posted by OneSevenDeuce
                      It can damage the extractor over time.
                      I better stop doing that then. Thanks for the heads up.

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                      • #12
                        RTE
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2009
                        • 1948

                        Originally posted by OneSevenDeuce
                        It can damage the extractor over time.
                        OneSevenDeuce
                        Would it help to give more detail on why it may damage the extractor over time?
                        I know why,but it couldn't hurt to spell it out for the rest.

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                        • #13
                          OneSevenDeuce
                          Senior Member
                          • Jun 2010
                          • 2288

                          Excellent idea. When you drop a round in the chamber by hand the extractor will do one of two things, depending on your gun. It will slam against the rear of the case and not engage at all, or it will actually bend into place around the rim. Either one of these things can weaken or crack the extractor over time.
                          What do you mean my birth certificate expired?

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                          • #14
                            rojocorsa
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 9139

                            Nevermind...
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                            • #15
                              9mmepiphany
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 8075

                              Both of these practices/advice originate from the 1911, as do many other things taught when learning about how to operate an auto pistol. While they may not be universally applicable across other platforms, they certainly don't hurt anything.

                              When the 1911 chambers a .45ACP round, the bullet is first slammed into the feeding ramp and then the roof of the barrel hood on it's way into the chamber...this can push a bullet back into a case in short order. Contributing factors would be neck tension holding the bullet of in place.

                              The two platforms that come to mind that do not suffer from this are the H&K P7 and the Beretta 92, as neither of them have tilting barrels and afford a straight feed from the magazine into the chamber.

                              Not chambering a round directly into the barrel is due to breakage problems this causes with the 1911 extractor. Again neither the H&K P7 nor the Beretta 92 have this issue. The Beretta was held up as an example of this during a Advanced Handgun course I took with a former Marine Instructor. He related that they broke numerous extractors during drills with their M1911s, but that the failures stopped when they converted over to the M9s
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