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  • Recession
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2010
    • 1565

    Looking for Gunsmith: M&P45 trigger work

    I'm looking for a gunsmith that can install an APEX 45 Duty/Carry Action Enhancement Kit (DCAEK) for me. Preferably in the LA-OC-IE county area. Private or Commercial business is fine as long as they do a good job and guarantee their work. Thanks!
  • #2
    Tom Slick
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2010
    • 730

    Have you thought about doing it yourself? The parts are drop-in and only take about 15 mins.

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    • #3
      cmth
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2009
      • 519

      There's a guy in Covina who does trigger jobs on the M&Ps, but I can't seem to find his info at the moment. I'm thinking of trying him out for my .45 as well.
      Libertas aut Mors

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      • #4
        Army
        Veteran Member
        • Oct 2005
        • 3915

        The APEX parts are drop-in easy. Take your time and do it yourself.
        "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself...A murderer is less to fear. The traitor is the plague."......Cicero

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        • #5
          Fate
          Calguns Addict
          • Apr 2006
          • 9545

          So easy a caveman can do it.
          sigpic "On bended knee is no way to be free." - Eddie Vedder, "Guaranteed"

          "Let your gun therefore be the constant companion of your walks." -Thomas Jefferson
          , in a letter to his nephew Peter Carr dated August 19, 1785

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          • #6
            Recession
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2010
            • 1565

            Originally posted by Fate
            So easy a caveman can do it.

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            • #7
              Shenaniguns
              Calguns Addict
              • Dec 2006
              • 6158

              I'd drive it over to Apex Tactical Specialties and have them perform their magic and make sure everything is to spec. And tell them Shenaniguns sent you

              Apex Tactical Specialties, Inc.
              715-D Santa Maria Ave. Los Osos, CA 93402 United States
              Phone: 805.528.5250 Email: guns@apextactical.com
              My opinions are my own and do not represent the position of other companies I may be involved with.

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              • #8
                Sam
                Calguns Addict
                CGN Contributor
                • Jul 2008
                • 5205

                Originally posted by Shenaniguns
                I'd drive it over to Apex Tactical Specialties and have them perform their magic and make sure everything is to spec. And tell them Shenaniguns sent you

                Apex Tactical Specialties, Inc.
                715-D Santa Maria Ave. Los Osos, CA 93402 United States
                Phone: 805.528.5250 Email: guns@apextactical.com
                Then you should go get a burger at Sylvester's, a cup of chowder from Splash Cafe and enjoy the central coast.

                I'm sorta actually looking forward to getting around to picking up an M&P and taking it to Apex.

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                • #9
                  45R
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2005
                  • 2028

                  Its easy enough to DYI although it doesnt hurt to have someone like Randy or Scott finger your pistol.
                  Pistol-Training.com

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                  • #10
                    Tom Slick
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2010
                    • 730

                    You guys can stop by my house for a beer, Apex is only about 5 mins from my house. I'll even take you out to our great range.

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                    • #11
                      Recession
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2010
                      • 1565

                      Originally posted by Shenaniguns
                      I'd drive it over to Apex Tactical Specialties and have them perform their magic and make sure everything is to spec. And tell them Shenaniguns sent you

                      Apex Tactical Specialties, Inc.
                      715-D Santa Maria Ave. Los Osos, CA 93402 United States
                      Phone: 805.528.5250 Email: guns@apextactical.com
                      8+ hour drive to get a trigger installed?

                      My gas would come out to more than what the kit cost me.

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                      • #12
                        Shenaniguns
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Dec 2006
                        • 6158

                        You can install it yourself or ship it as well.


                        You can read this to tie you over


                        On Duty with Apex Tactical’s DCAEK

                        Following thorough testing and evaluation by their Lead Firearms Instructor, the Port Authority of Allegheny County, PA has officially approved the Apex Tactical Specialties DCAEK for use in Duty/Off Duty S&W M&P’s for it’s officers.

                        This is a huge milestone for a small company like Apex. We’ve had numberous LE agancies across the country request and receive T&E samples of our DCAEK and this is the first one to officially add the DCAEK to their list of permitted modifications.



                        I'm glad I shipped it to them personally, some of my stock parts were slightly out of spec and they adjusted it for me no charge
                        Last edited by Shenaniguns; 09-15-2010, 6:24 PM.
                        My opinions are my own and do not represent the position of other companies I may be involved with.

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                        • #13
                          chiselchst
                          Very Nice Honey Badger
                          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 2025

                          If you DIY, these videos made by Apex will help:



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                          Here, let me Google that for you ... :)

                          No, no, that would be cruel.

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                          • #14
                            Shenaniguns
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Dec 2006
                            • 6158

                            Here is one of the rare issues some are running into:

                            [quote name='Randy Lee' date='Sep 9 2010, 08:04 AM' post='271111']
                            Greetings,

                            We have been investigating the problem for a little while and have isolated a few causes. Sear spring dimension, vertical tolerance between slide and frame coupled with the non-stock sear geometry such as ours and the pro sear all contribute to the dead trigger.

                            The primary culprit is sear bounce during recoil. My personal feeling is that the sear spring is not of adequate size to stabilize the sear during recoil, especially in the .40,.357 and .45s- moreso with the compacts.
                            The North Carolina State Police had issues with this as they use the .357 Sig caliber. The factory solution to the problem was to retrofit the pistols with a sear housing block similar if not identical to tha MA compliant version, and a new trigger assembly. The larger sear spring and plunger helps retard the inertial bounce by applying more adequate upward pressure to the sear.

                            The vertical tolerance between the slide and frame can vary as much as .015 or more (in some of the guns I've measured). When you figure that I established our sear to have .040" of sear/striker engagement and you lose almost half of that due to overly generous slide to frame vertical spacing- sear bounce becomes an
                            issue of great concern. Regardless of what some LE sales reps are telling their customers-that our sears are the culprit, our sears are not the problem.

                            Of all the sears we have sold, we know of less than 20 instances of dead triggers. Of those, I have inspected 7 and found all of them to have slide/frame gaps that measured .010-.018 greater than our other test pistols.
                            The Pro series pistols have been around for a while longer than our sear and reports of dead triggers have been reported since its introduction.

                            In most of the dead trigger reports, the sear is bouncing enough to let the trigger bar slip back under the sear. This effectively prevents the sear from recovering to full height. This is why many report that they detect no feeling of trigger reset when they release the trigger after the malfunction occurs. The trigger bar is already positioned under the sear cam as if it were ready to fire. But because the striker is already forward of the sear at this point, racking the slide is the only option to recock the striker.

                            I believe the M&P platform is an exceptional pistol. It just needs to evolve a bit more.
                            To that end, in the upcoming months we will be producing our own proprietary solutions.
                            Until then I encourage anyone who is experiencing a dead trigger with our sear to contact me directly.
                            randy@apextactical.com

                            -Randy
                            [/quote]
                            My opinions are my own and do not represent the position of other companies I may be involved with.

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                            • #15
                              9mmepiphany
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 8075

                              Customer Service doesn't get much better than that offered by Randy, Scott and Lisa...when you call, you talk to one of the business owners
                              ...because the journey is the worthier part...The Shepherd's Tale

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