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  • Chief-7700
    Veteran Member
    • May 2008
    • 3382

    .22 Conversion Unit for .45ACP 1911

    Which Company makes the best conversion unit for a .45ACP 1911 that slide locks on the empty magazine.

    XL-650 to feed the: .45ACP's Les Baer Concept V, Ruger SR 1911, Ruger Nightwatchman,custom built Colt M1911, Springfield .45ACP Loaded.. 9MM SA Range Officer,Ruger P-85, Springfield Stainless 9MM loaded, SA 9MM 5.25" XDM, Springfield 9mm Stainless Range Officer, STI double stack .45ACP.
    IDPA A41750 Safety Officer
    NRA Certified RSO
    "Stay out of the deep end of the pool; correct the problem with your credit card, not your dremel!"
  • #2
    JohnFLand
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2010
    • 959

    Kimber makes a nice one that doesn't lock the slide back BUT, by using a SigPower follower with a slight modification (picture posted here: http://thefiringline.com/forums/show...light=sigpower) you will get the slide to stay open (not lock back) after the last round. $289 at Midway, $20 mags, comes in black or silver: http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct...tnumber=742983 (black).

    For true lockback, see http://www.advantagearms.com/mm5/mer...gory_Code=1911 (but note: they have suspended taking orders).

    See also http://www.tacticalsol.com/index.php...product_id=105 (pricey, ugly sights).

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    • #3
      gasol1ne
      Member
      • Aug 2009
      • 470

      this really doesnt answer your question, but have you looked into a Ruger 22/45? It has the same grip angle and control locations as a 1911.

      I was thinking about doing a .22 conversion on my .45 but realized that the cost of a .22 conversion was almost the same as the cost of buying a 22/45. Also the reliability on the Ruger is top notch, it eats anything. I have shot at least 4k rounds through it and had no problems at all.

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      • #4
        JohnFLand
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2010
        • 959

        But the trigger, controls and balance are not the same as on the 1911. What I wanted in a conversion was a cheap (after the capital outlay) way to learn MY gun, not some other gun.

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        • #5
          gasol1ne
          Member
          • Aug 2009
          • 470

          Originally posted by JohnFLand
          But the trigger, controls and balance are not the same as on the 1911. What I wanted in a conversion was a cheap (after the capital outlay) way to learn MY gun, not some other gun.
          makes sense, nothing beats trigger time, and nothing is cheaper than shooting .22. I did a little financial analysis as well when i started shooting .22 and the cost savings of shooting .22 instead of .45, paid for itself in about 1500 rounds (about 3 boxes .22 value packs), and that was including the cost of capital.

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          • #6
            Grumpyoldretiredcop
            Calguns Addict
            • Sep 2008
            • 6437

            I bought a used Kimber kit - it runs flawlessly on Remington Golden Bullet and most other ammo I've tried in it. I don't worry about it not locking open as the Kimber firing pin won't peen the chamber mouth. Kimber says you can dry fire it all you want without hurting it, and after doing some dry fire, examining the chamber mouth and seeing no signs of firing pin strikes, I believe it.

            It'll do until the Advantage Arms kits again become readily available. They are set up to lock open on the last round.
            I'm retired. That's right, retired. I don't want to hear about the cop who stopped you today or how you didn't think you should get a ticket. That just makes me grumpy!

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            • #7
              Chief-7700
              Veteran Member
              • May 2008
              • 3382

              Thank you for your input. Looking at getting the following conversion:

              XL-650 to feed the: .45ACP's Les Baer Concept V, Ruger SR 1911, Ruger Nightwatchman,custom built Colt M1911, Springfield .45ACP Loaded.. 9MM SA Range Officer,Ruger P-85, Springfield Stainless 9MM loaded, SA 9MM 5.25" XDM, Springfield 9mm Stainless Range Officer, STI double stack .45ACP.
              IDPA A41750 Safety Officer
              NRA Certified RSO
              "Stay out of the deep end of the pool; correct the problem with your credit card, not your dremel!"

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              • #8
                GM4spd
                Calguns Addict
                • May 2008
                • 5682

                Colt is the only one that locks back. There is a conversion kit in the
                parts for sale section for $425 which is a good price for a real Colt. They
                are NOT super accurate but you can shoot ANY ammo and they work.I
                have shot 1000s of rounds thru them and the Service Model Ace for the
                past 40 years, my favorite 22 pistol.
                They give you the real feel for sure. Pete





                Last edited by GM4spd; 08-30-2010, 8:52 PM.

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                • #9
                  freonr22
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 12945

                  is there any difference in accuracy between the Kimber and others?
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                  • #10
                    redcliff
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 5676

                    The Bob Marvel conversion is considerred the most accurate from what I hear also.

                    The Colt .22. conversions are lots of fun though, and reasonablly accurate and they function just like a normal 1911 and get a bit extra kick from the floating chamber. But they are a bit tempermental towards ammo and cleaning in my experience. I have a Service Model Ace I bought new about 1980 and have put thousands of rounds through it. I've not had the pleasure of trying a Kimber conversion or Ceiner (I would never order from Ceiner tbh, I don't like his customer service, or lack thereof).
                    "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
                    "What we get away with isn't usually the same as what's good for us"
                    "An extended slide stop is the second most useless part you can put on a 1911"

                    "While Ruger DA revolvers may be built like a tank, they have the aesthetics of one also,
                    although I suppose there are a few tanks which I owe an apology to for that remark"

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                    • #11
                      Grumpyoldretiredcop
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 6437

                      Originally posted by GM4spd
                      Colt is the only one that locks back.
                      Sorry, not correct. The Advantage Arms kit also locks open after firing the last round. See #2 under "Exclusive Features of Our 1911 Conversion Kit" on this page.
                      I'm retired. That's right, retired. I don't want to hear about the cop who stopped you today or how you didn't think you should get a ticket. That just makes me grumpy!

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                      • #12
                        -hanko
                        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                        CGN Contributor
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 14174

                        Originally posted by redcliff
                        The Bob Marvel conversion is considerred the most accurate from what I hear also.
                        Unless you can find a used Kart conversion

                        Your comments re: Ciener are accurate

                        -hanko
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                        • #13
                          Chief-7700
                          Veteran Member
                          • May 2008
                          • 3382

                          Just got off the phone with Bob Marvel. He is coming out with redesigned .22
                          Conversion unit with in two months.

                          XL-650 to feed the: .45ACP's Les Baer Concept V, Ruger SR 1911, Ruger Nightwatchman,custom built Colt M1911, Springfield .45ACP Loaded.. 9MM SA Range Officer,Ruger P-85, Springfield Stainless 9MM loaded, SA 9MM 5.25" XDM, Springfield 9mm Stainless Range Officer, STI double stack .45ACP.
                          IDPA A41750 Safety Officer
                          NRA Certified RSO
                          "Stay out of the deep end of the pool; correct the problem with your credit card, not your dremel!"

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                          • #14
                            redcliff
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Feb 2008
                            • 5676

                            Originally posted by Chief-7700
                            Just got off the phone with Bob Marvel. He is coming out with redesigned .22
                            Conversion unit with in two months.
                            Judging by the 1911's he builds, I'm sure it will be incredibly accurate.
                            "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
                            "What we get away with isn't usually the same as what's good for us"
                            "An extended slide stop is the second most useless part you can put on a 1911"

                            "While Ruger DA revolvers may be built like a tank, they have the aesthetics of one also,
                            although I suppose there are a few tanks which I owe an apology to for that remark"

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                            • #15
                              TMC
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2005
                              • 2348

                              Tactical Solutions makes an excellent converion for either single stack 1911's or STI/SV 1911's. The mags are machined from aluminum and work flawlesly. It also locks back on the last rounds. They make and Iron sight version, one with a picatinny rail and one with both iron sights and a rail in between the front and rear sight.

                              Skillfully crafted for precision, ensuring accuracy with each shot. Delivering excellence one shot at a time...
                              where are my pistol mags?

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