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  • #16
    vta
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 1672

    bring it without the mags and breech load! we will still be jealous.

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    • #17
      TexasBulldog
      Junior Member
      • Dec 2009
      • 30

      Ya know, i was gonna bring a question about competition shooters and their mags but it looks to be answered already.

      what constitutes "Competiton shooting" and is that only OK for the range?

      anyhow, i'll just bring something 10 and under to be safe. I'll be visiting family for 2 weeks and as a former CA resident and gun owner, i understand that my CCW doesn't mean anything there and i can't really even carry it with me in the car. Its more for hotel room and situtations like that. I do plan on going to the range i used to work at to shoot and see friends too though.

      Thanks guys, looks like the STI is gonna come to Ca

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      • #18
        NiteQwill
        Calguns Addict
        • Dec 2007
        • 6368

        Competition shooting exemption must be a sanctioned event.

        You can always LUCC (locked unloaded CC). Yes, sucks. But at least you always have your gun with you.

        The fate of the wounded rest in the hands of the ones who apply the first dressing.

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        • #19
          cannon
          In Memoriam
          • Aug 2008
          • 8589

          Originally posted by TexasBulldog
          Ya know, i was gonna bring a question about competition shooters and their mags but it looks to be answered already.

          what constitutes "Competiton shooting" and is that only OK for the range?

          anyhow, i'll just bring something 10 and under to be safe. I'll be visiting family for 2 weeks and as a former CA resident and gun owner, i understand that my CCW doesn't mean anything there and i can't really even carry it with me in the car. Its more for hotel room and situtations like that. I do plan on going to the range i used to work at to shoot and see friends too though.

          Thanks guys, looks like the STI is gonna come to Ca
          Carrying it in the car. Pistol goes in a locked box that is not a console or glove box.
          ^^ Said by some lunatic on the internet

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          • #20
            pczealot
            Junior Member
            • Aug 2010
            • 58

            Originally posted by HighLander51
            As a Texas resident, you can bring your high capacity mags with you and take them with you when you leave. You just can't offer them for sale. There is no restriction other than CA legal transport.
            Come now, don't talk like the CA anti-gun advocates. His TX magazines are standard capacity. CA magazines are restricted capacity.
            It ain't ignorance that causes all the trouble in this world. It's the things people know that ain't so.
            Edwin Armstrong

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            • #21
              HighLander51
              Banned
              • Feb 2010
              • 5144

              Come now, don't talk like the CA anti-gun advocates... Do I look like an anti-gunner? The big stick in my avatar is 28 rounds, it's a higher hi-capacity magazine.

              Just because the "cometitive shooters" are doing does not make it legal. It's competitive, and yes, it is legal.

              The OP is not a CA resident, all he has to do is obey CA transport laws, that's all. In fact, there is no restrictions on those of us that have hi-capacity mags that are CA residents. I don't even own any 10 rounders.

              How about this, the OP's calls the CA DOJ and asks the question, then posts the answer.
              Last edited by HighLander51; 10-30-2010, 11:25 AM.

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              • #22
                Fate
                Calguns Addict
                • Apr 2006
                • 9545



                Highlander, you need to stop spreading misinformation. Your advice will get someone popped for a felony.
                Last edited by Fate; 08-26-2010, 6:10 PM.
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                • #23
                  Cokebottle
                  Seņor Member
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 32373

                  Originally posted by HighLander51
                  The OP is not a CA resident, all he has to do is obey CA transport laws, that's all.
                  That is NOT all
                  In fact, there is no restrictions on those of us that have hi-capacity mags that are CA residents. I don't even own any 10 rounders.
                  For California residents, that is correct.
                  There are SOME restrictions, such as you can not use a magazine with a capacity greater than 10 rounds in a fixed-magazine gun... that constitutes an assault weapon... but as far as traditional pistols, yes, you are correct.

                  How about this, the OP's calls the CA DOJ and asks the question, then posts the answer.
                  How about you stop spreading DANGEROUS misinformation that is going to land someone in jail and stripped of their gun rights.

                  Rather than call the DOJ, why not just look at the law:


                  PC12020
                  (a)Any person in this state who does any of the following is punishable by imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one year or in the state prison:
                  (2)Commencing January 1, 2000, manufactures or causes to be manufactured, imports into the state, keeps for sale, or offers or exposes for sale, or who gives, or lends, any large-capacity magazine.

                  (b)Subdivision (a) does not apply to any of the following:

                  (19)The sale of, giving of, lending of, importation into this state of, or purchase of, any large-capacity magazine to or by any federal, state, county, city and county, or city agency that is charged with the enforcement of any law, for use by agency employees in the discharge of their official duties whether on or off duty, and where the use is authorized by the agency and is within the course and scope of their duties.
                  (20)The sale to, lending to, transfer to, purchase by, receipt of, or importation into this state of, a large-capacity magazine by a sworn peace officer as defined in Chapter 4.5 (commencing with Section 830) of Title 3 of Part 2 who is authorized to carry a firearm in the course and scope of his or her duties.
                  (21)The sale or purchase of any large-capacity magazine to or by a person licensed pursuant to Section 12071.
                  (22)The loan of a lawfully possessed large-capacity magazine between two individuals if all of the following conditions are met:
                  (A)The person being loaned the large-capacity magazine is not prohibited by Section 12021, 12021.1, or 12101 of this code or Section 8100 or 8103 of the Welfare and Institutions Code from possessing firearms or ammunition.
                  (B)The loan of the large-capacity magazine occurs at a place or location where the possession of the large-capacity magazine is not otherwise prohibited and the person who lends the large-capacity magazine remains in the accessible vicinity of the person to whom the large-capacity magazine is loaned.
                  (23)The importation of a large-capacity magazine by a person who lawfully possessed the large-capacity magazine in the state prior to January 1, 2000, lawfully took it out of the state, and is returning to the state with the large-capacity magazine previously lawfully possessed in the state.
                  (24)The lending or giving of any large-capacity magazine to a person licensed pursuant to Section 12071, or to a gunsmith, for the purposes of maintenance, repair, or modification of that large-capacity magazine.
                  (25)The return to its owner of any large-capacity magazine by a person specified in paragraph (24).
                  (26)The importation into this state of, or sale of, any large-capacity magazine by a person who has been issued a permit to engage in those activities pursuant to Section 12079, when those activities are in accordance with the terms and conditions of that permit.
                  (27)The sale of, giving of, lending of, importation into this state of, or purchase of, any large-capacity magazine, to or by entities that operate armored vehicle businesses pursuant to the laws of this state.
                  (28)The lending of large-capacity magazines by the entities specified in paragraph (27) to their authorized employees, while in the course and scope of their employment for purposes that pertain to the entity's armored vehicle business.
                  (29)The return of those large-capacity magazines to those entities specified in paragraph (27) by those employees specified in paragraph (28).
                  (30)(A)The manufacture of a large-capacity magazine for any federal, state, county, city and county, or city agency that is charged with the enforcement of any law, for use by agency employees in the discharge of their official duties whether on or off duty, and where the use is authorized by the agency and is within the course and scope of their duties.
                  (B)The manufacture of a large-capacity magazine for use by a sworn peace officer as defined in Chapter 4.5 (commencing with Section 830) of Title 3 of Part 2 who is authorized to carry a firearm in the course and scope of his or her duties.
                  (C)The manufacture of a large-capacity magazine for export or for sale to government agencies or the military pursuant to applicable federal regulations.
                  (31)The loan of a large-capacity magazine for use solely as a prop for a motion picture, television, or video production.
                  (32)The purchase of a large-capacity magazine by the holder of a special weapons permit issued pursuant to Section 12095, 12230, 12250, 12286, or 12305, for any of the following purposes:
                  (A)For use solely as a prop for a motion picture, television, or video production.
                  (B)For export pursuant to federal regulations.
                  (C)For resale to law enforcement agencies, government agencies, or the military, pursuant to applicable federal regulations.
                  That's pretty clear.
                  The offense for importation is a wobbler... could be prosecuted as a felony or misdemeanor... but the arresting officer is going to book it as a felony.
                  There is NO exemption for out of state CCW holders or for competitive shooters.... California does not recognize any out of state CCW for any purpose other than LEO licenses pursuant to HR218.

                  BTW: Could you please use the "quote" feature, rather than just copy-paste? It makes it difficult to separate your responses from the original quote.
                  - Rich

                  Originally posted by dantodd
                  A just government will not be overthrown by force or violence because the people have no incentive to overthrow a just government. If a small minority of people attempt such an insurrection to grab power and enslave the people, the RKBA of the whole is our insurance against their success.

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                  • #24
                    !@#$%40
                    Junior Member
                    • Aug 2010
                    • 15

                    Originally posted by NiteQwill
                    Competition shooting exemption must be a sanctioned event.

                    You can always LUCC (locked unloaded CC). Yes, sucks. But at least you always have your gun with you.

                    that is what i heard/read about too!! any competitor from out of state can bring even a .50 BMG as long as they can prove they are going to a sanctioned competetion... (or am i wrong or is the info i read here wrong?) Depending on where your are at, I have a friend that has xdm.40 mags configured to make CA law!!

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