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  • UGlide
    Junior Member
    • Nov 2009
    • 14

    Moving To CA With Large-Capacity Magazines

    I am planning a move to California, and I understand that my large-capacity handgun magazines (over 10 rounds) are prohibited. If the gun manufacturer does not sell 10-round mags for my model, or if I do not want to buy new mags, please explain an acceptable (CA legal) method (if any) to reduce the capacity down to 10 rounds?

    THANKS IN ADVANCE
  • #2
    lazyworm
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2006
    • 1638

    Depends on the model of your gun/mag. Some vendors here sell
    plastic inserts that you can put inside your mags and block them to
    10 rounds only. You should then epoxy/screw/rivet it permanently.

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    • #3
      UGlide
      Junior Member
      • Nov 2009
      • 14

      Originally posted by lazyworm
      Depends on the model of your gun/mag. Some vendors here sell
      plastic inserts that you can put inside your mags and block them to
      10 rounds only. You should then epoxy/screw/rivet it permanently.

      I have to do the mods before I enter the state. Have you (or anyone else) got a specific part description and web supplier for that item? I tried a 'search', but came up empty.

      THANKS AGAIN.

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      • #4
        RobG
        Veteran Member
        • Dec 2006
        • 4887

        Originally posted by UGlide
        I have to do the mods before I enter the state. Have you (or anyone else) got a specific part description and web supplier for that item? I tried a 'search', but came up empty.

        THANKS AGAIN.
        You don't have to before but, you must bring them disassembled. I would seriously try and find some ten round mags and not permanantly modify your normal capacity mags. I am certainly not in the know but, there was a recent thread in the 2ND forum discussing normal cap mags and possibly something positive coming in the near future.

        ETA: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=330545

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        • #5
          GLopez
          Junior Member
          • Aug 2010
          • 2

          Im kind of in the same predicament, except that Im moving to CA from Oregon and I did find 10rd mags for my gun (XD Service 45acp) but Im unaware of any regulations regarding the registration of a fire arm in CA. I should mention that I am a CA resident and I purchased the gun in Oregon about a month ago. DO I have to register the fire arm as soon as move to CA or do I have to do it know?

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          • #6
            Mstrty
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2008
            • 2443

            Originally posted by GLopez
            Im kind of in the same predicament, except that Im moving to CA from Oregon and I did find 10rd mags for my gun (XD Service 45acp) but Im unaware of any regulations regarding the registration of a fire arm in CA. I should mention that I am a CA resident and I purchased the gun in Oregon about a month ago. DO I have to register the fire arm as soon as move to CA or do I have to do it know?
            Info

            form

            Just file the above form withing 60 days after you take up residency in the state. Disassemble any magazines that can accept more than 10 rounds. Keep your magazines disassembled until the law changes or till you permanently modify them to not accept more than ten rounds. Welcome and Calguns is your best source for firearm information for California's insane gun laws.
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            • #7
              vta
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2009
              • 1672

              did you own the mags before 2000? i dont actually know if it applies to out-of-staters moving in so maybe someone here can chime in. For Californians who have owned full-capacity mags before 2000, it is legal for us to have them.

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              • #8
                asgalindez
                Senior Member
                • May 2007
                • 1108

                Originally posted by vta
                did you own the mags before 2000? i dont actually know if it applies to out-of-staters moving in so maybe someone here can chime in. For Californians who have owned full-capacity mags before 2000, it is legal for us to have them.
                Out-of-staters moving in and bringing their high caps assembled (regardless of purchase date) would be importation. Sounds kinda...felonious?

                Originally posted by CalGuns Wiki
                Large-capacity magazine restrictions
                From Calguns Wiki

                History
                As part of expanding the definition of Assault Weapons with the passage of SB-23 in July 1999, prohibitions on magazine capacity sizes were introduced into the Penal Code. SB-23 added a new term, "large-capacity magazine." The penalty for violating Penal Code 12020 is a "wobbler" with a statute of limitations of three years.

                Current Restrictions
                Penal Code 12020 states:

                12020 (a)(2) Commencing January 1, 2000, manufactures or causes
                to be manufactured, imports into the state, keeps for sale, or
                offers or exposes for sale, or who gives, or lends, any large-
                capacity magazine.

                12020 (c)(25) As used in this section, "large-capacity
                magazine" means any ammunition feeding device with the capacity
                to accept more than 10 rounds, but shall not be construed to
                include any of the following:
                (A) A feeding device that has been permanently altered so
                that itcannot accommodate more than 10 rounds.
                (B) A .22 caliber tube ammunition feeding device.
                (C) A tubular magazine that is contained in a lever-action
                firearm.
                The California Department of Justice Bureau of Firearms FAQ summarizes the restrictions well:

                9. If I have a large-capacity magazine, do I need to get rid of
                it?

                No. Continued possession of large-capacity magazines (able to
                accept more than 10 rounds) that you owned in California before
                January 1, 2000, is not prohibited. However as of January 1,
                2000, it is illegal to buy, manufacture, import, keep for sale,
                expose for sale, give or lend any large-capacity magazine in
                California except by law enforcement agencies, California
                peace officers, or licensed dealers.

                (PC Section 12020 (b)(19-29))
                Last edited by asgalindez; 08-18-2010, 11:51 PM.
                The question is not "How far?". The question is "Do you possess the constitution, the depth of faith, to go as far as is needed?". - Il Duce/Prisoner#6570534 from Boondock Saints
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                • #9
                  Turo
                  Calguns Addict
                  • May 2009
                  • 5066

                  Originally posted by vta
                  did you own the mags before 2000? i dont actually know if it applies to out-of-staters moving in so maybe someone here can chime in. For Californians who have owned full-capacity mags before 2000, it is legal for us to have them.
                  It only applies to out-of-staters ONLY if that person possessed the magazines inside of California before 2000. If the OP had done that, it would be perfectly legal for him to bring the mags back.
                  "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure."
                  -Thomas Jefferson

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                  • #10
                    vta
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 1672

                    Originally posted by Turo
                    It only applies to out-of-staters ONLY if that person possessed the magazines inside of California before 2000. If the OP had done that, it would be perfectly legal for him to bring the mags back.
                    thanks. just to clarify, they had to be california residents right?

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                    • #11
                      leelaw
                      Junior Member
                      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 10445

                      Originally posted by vta
                      thanks. just to clarify, they had to be california residents right?
                      No, they merely had to lawfully possess them within California before 01/01/2000. Residence before that time would help corroborate any such claims, but it is not required.

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                      • #12
                        benbangui
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2009
                        • 1386

                        disassemble... choose to keep or not...
                        if not... sell or trade them as parts kits here on calguns

                        im sure you will find someone that will trade you there 10rn for a disassembled normal one

                        benifits of having a modefied normal cap though would be a full grip on the mag. easyer to handle...
                        Check Out my Youtube Channel!

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                        • #13
                          Masterdebater
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 1095

                          what kind of gun is it?

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                          • #14
                            pd5190
                            Member
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 203

                            Looking at code section 12020 regarding the import of large capacity magazines. According to Oxfords dictionary the term import is used in reference to the intended sale of that particular item. It seems that code section applies to the intended sale and distribution of large capacity magazines after the given date. There is nothing in that section and subsequent sections as posted in this thread that would seem to prohibit a private party bringing there personal property into the state.

                            Just my humble non legal observation.

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                            • #15
                              Foriegn power
                              Banned
                              • Dec 2009
                              • 1035

                              I feel sorry for you, Oregon is such of a beautiful state! I went four summers ago to Winchester Bay such a beautiful place! But welcome to California when you come, what part of the state will you be residing.

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