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  • JMAN1981
    Junior Member
    • Aug 2010
    • 15

    Problems with Proof of residnency please help.

    Im not sure if these will work for proof of residency but I thought I would check here and see if anyone else is in, or has been in, the same predictament. I lease my condo and the lease was electronically signed by me and my landlord who lives overseas all which was overseen by a realator. Since it is not signed with signatures will it work? I know it doesnt have to be notarized. Also I have the electricity bill in my name but I do not recieve statements through the regular mail. I have to printout my statements from online which has my name and address listed. Would the online utility bill work if I run into problems with my lease? I cant use my registration because its registered to the company I work for. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
  • #2
    littlejake
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2008
    • 2168

    Originally posted by JMAN1981
    Im not sure if these will work for proof of residency but I thought I would check here and see if anyone else is in, or has been in, the same predictament. I lease my condo and the lease was electronically signed by me and my landlord who lives overseas all which was overseen by a realator. Since it is not signed with signatures will it work? I know it doesnt have to be notarized. Also I have the electricity bill in my name but I do not recieve statements through the regular mail. I have to printout my statements from online which has my name and address listed. Would the online utility bill work if I run into problems with my lease? I cant use my registration because its registered to the company I work for. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
    I think printing your online utility bill will work.
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    • #3
      Soldier415
      Calguns Addict
      • Feb 2007
      • 9537

      Online prinout of your utility bill will work as long as it has your name, address, and a bill date.

      Is this for a handgun or long gun?
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      Absolutely, I've refused sale before.
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      • #4
        JMAN1981
        Junior Member
        • Aug 2010
        • 15

        Its handgun. If it works my only problem will be deciding which handgun to get. Tough decision.

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        • #5
          SJgunguy24
          I need a LIFE!!
          • May 2008
          • 14849

          From CA doj website

          33.What documentation is acceptable to demonstrate proof of residency for handgun purchasers?


          ■Utility bill from within the past three months that bears on its face the individual's name and either of the following:
          1.The individual's current residential address as declared on the Dealer's Record of Sale (DROS) form

          or

          2.The individual's residential address as it appears on his or her California Driver License or California Identification Card, or change of address attachment thereto.
          "Utility bill" means a statement of charges for providing service to the individual's residence by either a physical connection (i.e., hard wired telephone connection or cable connection, or a water or gas pipeline connection) or a telemetric connection (i.e., satellite television or radio broadcast service) to a non-mobile, fixed antenna reception device.

          ■Residential lease that bears the individual's name and either of the following:
          1.The individual's current residential address as declared on the Dealer's Record of Sale (DROS) form
          or

          2.The individual's address as it appears on his or her California Driver License or California Identification card, or change of address attachment thereto.
          "Residential lease" means either of the following:

          A.A signed and dated contract by which the individual (tenant)agrees to pay a specified monetary sum or provide other consideration for the right to occupy an abode for a specified period of time
          or

          B.A signed and dated rental agreement by which the individual (tenant) agrees to pay a specified monetary sum or provide other consideration at fixed intervals for the right to occupy an abode.
          ■Property deed the bears the individual's name and either of the following:
          1.The individual's current residential address as declared on the Dealer's Record of Sale (DROS) form
          or

          2.The individual's address as it appears on his or her California Driver License or California Identification Card, or change of address attachment thereto.
          "Property deed" means either or the following:

          A.A valid deed of trust for the individual's property of current residence that identifies the individual as a grantee of the trust
          or

          B.A valid Certificate of title issued by a licensed title insurance company that identifies the individual as a title holder to his or her property of current residence.
          ■Current, government-issued license, permit, or registration, other than a CA Driver License or CA Identification Card, that has a specified expiration date or period of validity. The license, permit, or registration must bear the individual's name and either of the following:
          1.The individual's current residential address as declared on the Dealer's Record of Sale (DROS) form
          or

          2.The individual's address as it appears on his or her California Driver License or California Identification Card, or change of address attachment thereto.
          Examples of acceptable proof of residency:

          1.Current DMV registrations.
          2.Electricity, gas, cable bill with purchaser's name onit from within the last 3 months.
          3.Signed, dated and notarized rental agreement/contract.

          Examples of documents that are NOT acceptable proof of residency:

          1.Hunting or fishing license (these documents are not issued by the government).
          2.Cellular phone bill.
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          • #6
            gravedigger
            Banned
            • Jul 2008
            • 2015

            I am self-employed. I use my DBA filed with the county as my proof of residence.

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            • #7
              Sam
              Calguns Addict
              CGN Contributor
              • Jul 2008
              • 5205

              Originally posted by Soldier415
              Online prinout of your utility bill will work as long as it has your name, address, and a bill date.

              Is this for a handgun or long gun?
              This worked for me.

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              • #8
                OneSevenDeuce
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2010
                • 2288

                Remember that all this depends on the gun store. I have used printed utility bills with no problem at some places, and other places just wont take it no matter what I say about what anyone else has done. You may be able to use some things to prove your residence, but it doesn't mean the gun store knows that you can. Car title works the best.
                What do you mean my birth certificate expired?

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                • #9
                  Full Clip
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 10263

                  Utility bill should be fine, but car title is already in your car, no?

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                  • #10
                    Munk
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2010
                    • 2124

                    If you drove your own car to the store, you're good to go; License and registration, all the ID and POR you need.

                    If you don't have registration, then call the gunstore and find out if they'll accept your printed utility bill. If you're willing to wait, you can also request a printed copy of your bill directly from the utility company.
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                    • #11
                      mixwell
                      Member
                      • Jan 2010
                      • 213

                      Originally posted by Munk
                      If you drove your own car to the store, you're good to go; License and registration, all the ID and POR you need.

                      If you don't have registration, then call the gunstore and find out if they'll accept your printed utility bill. If you're willing to wait, you can also request a printed copy of your bill directly from the utility company.
                      +1 to this !! From the time I bought my 1st handgun in 2004 to 2010 getting my 1911 I forgot and when they asked for a utility bill i was like %#$%! since I am renting and don't have any utilities other than credit card, cell phone which don't work BUT car registration is golden.. It's in my glove box all the time and if you're vehicle is registered in your name you're good to go if you really don't have any utilities in your name. I can see some stores not accepting printed out bills because it's easy to print them to a PDF form (i have a program called cutepdf creator) which emulates a printer.. From there you can open photoshop and match the text and BS your address so I understand.. Car registration is about the only other way if you don't pay utilities.. Actually from what I remember my first gun in 2004 (i was 21) I had my grandmother I was living with at the time be my witness in a statement saying I didn't pay any utilities and had it notarized and that worked for me as well so that might be another option. At that time my vehicle wasn't in my name as well since my parents were paying it off and owned the title/registration..

                      I know I know kind of immature but at that time of just turning 21 I was living at home still and had nothing legit in my name so I had to find a work-around AND I believe this was suggested to me by the gun store when I went to purchase the firearm and had nothing for utilities, car reg in my name the guy said I could have a notary stating the case which is what I decided to do.

                      PS.. .If you decide on the notary way of doing it I would ask the gun store if they will accept it first before wasting the time to go have a witness and call up a notary to do this because if they won't accept that then I don't know.. The store this occurred in with me was a Turners in Norwalk,CA and that was back in 2004 so I assume it is a legit work around you may want to consider as a last resort.
                      Last edited by mixwell; 08-04-2010, 7:43 PM. Reason: typo

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