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  • Mr. Ed
    Member
    • Mar 2006
    • 388

    Help me decide on a 1911...

    I am interested in either the SigSauer 1911 C3 (or RCS), the S&W 1911 Compact ES, or the Springfield Armory Lightweight Champion Operator. I know that they are different beasts. The Sig and the Smith are true commander length barrels (4.2in) vs. Springfields 4in barrel. The Sig and Smith also have officer sized frames and the Springfield has a full sized frame. The Sig and Smith do not have rails, the Springfield does. The Sig and Smith have external extractors and the Springfield has a traditional internal extractor. I have shot the Sig and the Springfield and don't notice any differences. I have not shot the Smith. I'm having a hard time deciding.

    What does the Calguns community think?

    (Sorry...no pics of the guns....somebody want to help me post pics?)
  • #2
    Colt
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2007
    • 1596

    Well, if you're looking for a true Commander, get a Colt Commander (4.25" barrel). They are great pistols.

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    • #3
      In_this_city
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2009
      • 647

      I really like the Sig GSR 1911s but I don't know if the C3 is on the roster. The full size shoot like a dream though. Reliability of Sig in a 1911 design. That's the best of both worlds.

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      • #4
        370z
        Junior Member
        • Jul 2010
        • 23

        I prefer the full-sized 1911's, but IMO a 4" barrel might not lose much against a 5". There's just something very nice about a full 5" that gets it to the range more often than the other pistols.

        No experience with the GSR, but I've been impressed by the quality of some of the Springfields I've seen. Some of those get pretty nice.

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        • #5
          sholling
          I need a LIFE!!
          CGN Contributor
          • Sep 2007
          • 10360

          Originally posted by Mr. Ed
          I am interested in either the SigSauer 1911 C3 (or RCS), the S&W 1911 Compact ES, or the Springfield Armory Lightweight Champion Operator. I know that they are different beasts. The Sig and the Smith are true commander length barrels (4.2in) vs. Springfields 4in barrel. The Sig and Smith also have officer sized frames and the Springfield has a full sized frame. The Sig and Smith do not have rails, the Springfield does. The Sig and Smith have external extractors and the Springfield has a traditional internal extractor. I have shot the Sig and the Springfield and don't notice any differences. I have not shot the Smith. I'm having a hard time deciding.

          What does the Calguns community think?

          (Sorry...no pics of the guns....somebody want to help me post pics?)
          Unless you're a LEO you can't get the C3 and Compact ES in California. I'm not sure about the Springer. I would love to have either. S&W has better service and support but the C3 has night sights. If you're a LEO I'd look at the Dan Wesson CCO as well. If you decide on a commander sized pistol I'd go with the S&W SW1911PD over the Springer.

          FYI to the best of my knowledge the only CCO stryle 1911s available to mere mortals are from Kimber. I'm not a big Kimber fan but I like my Compact CDP.

          Last edited by sholling; 07-31-2010, 11:32 AM.
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          • #6
            Black Majik
            Calguns Addict
            • Oct 2005
            • 9695

            When it comes to "Commander" size pistols, my favorite would be the S&W 1911PD, and a plain jane S80 Colt Commander in blue.

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            • #7
              1911Luvr
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2010
              • 1824

              Of the three you mentioned, I have only fired the Springer Champion. I very much liked the Champion, it shot well and I would not hesitate to get it.
              I voted against Obama before it was cool.

              Originally posted by 1911Luvr
              I beg to differ. The full length dust cover rail makes a world of difference in the "when I run out of bullets I'm going to beat you to death with the pistol" look that causes bad guys to run in fear, and lesser men to feel inadequate. It looks just plain beastly and the extra heft up front does help manage recoil a bit better. Plus, an angel told me that when God called JMB to heaven it was to build him a full rail 1911!

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              • #8
                shooting4life
                Calguns Addict
                • Jan 2009
                • 5768

                Someone just posted a nice sti in th for sale section. I would jump on that if I had he money.

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                • #9
                  osxgp
                  Member
                  • Jun 2010
                  • 435

                  The Springfield Operator is a tough one to find because Springfield is putting so much effort into the XD series of pistols. I wanted that model but it was unavailable. I decided on a Kimber instead. Very happy with it indeed.

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                  • #10
                    Mr. Ed
                    Member
                    • Mar 2006
                    • 388

                    Originally posted by sholling
                    Unless you're a LEO you can't get the C3 and Compact ES in California.
                    There are other legal ways to get them.

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                    • #11
                      AdiosKali
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 1235

                      Springfield all the way! My Operator give me wood!
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