Thinking about a Sub-Compact

[KillZone45]

All metal CZ Rami. Why cough up all that dough for plastic?

'cuz plastic is fantastic

[GlennG31]

For the P2000SK, Variant 2 is the LEM trigger. I happen to like the LEM trigger. It takes a little bit to get used to it, but I love it now that I am.

[tonelar]

I shot my G26 a couple days ago / while my favorite sub-compact is my PM9- that G26 is so fun to shoot- and it gives away very little in accuracy

stick with a caliber you already have

[Gryff]

My CCW gun is a Smith & Wesson M&P Compact in .40S&W. Great ergonomics on the gun, accurate, and reliable.

My wife's is a Glock 26, although she doesn't like the grip if she isn't using the mag with a finger extension.

[tonelar]

from the ballistic testing i've seen if you're going to be using ball ammo defensively go with a .45 / if you're good with buying bonded hollow point ammo (in a super short barreled compact they recommend +P loads) go with a 9mm.

IIRC you mentioned you already had 45 and 9mm handguns, right?

[WTSGDYBBR]

I got the Glock 27 Sub-Compact . I hate the aim on it. My hands may be to large for the gun. I don't like the low aim the high hit every time at the range. I do like that it is a 40ca. I bought the 9mm and 357sig custom barrels.When swapping out the 40ca barrel to the 9mm seems as you can control the gun. It more like a cap gun to me. I have tried the 357sig mod and it kicks like a bull. I would say its a safe gun for self defenses in case you had to pop someone fast. But its not a gun to go into a battle with.

[Rivers]

With the P2000 (regular or sk), you need to get it with the trigger style you want. You cannot convert a P2000 from DA/SA to LEM. You can swap out the two springs in the LEM trigger to lighten it from 8# to 4.5# (which is really nice!) The LEM trigger is different. My feeling is that for a SD firearm, it's the best design out there. No external safety lever but a longish trigger pull to avoid accidental discharges. It's not too long but enough so you're unlikely to let one loose carelessly. And it's light, clean with a short reset for follow-up shots.

[dexter9659]

Dont forget about Kahr. They make very nice small and slim guns.

http://www.kahr.com/

[neomedic]

IIRC you mentioned you already had 45 and 9mm handguns, right?

Yes...I have .45 and 9mm guns already.


Anyone know of any ranges in Los Angeles / San Gabriel Valley that I can rent a P2000sk with a LEM trigger that I can shoot. I think I know how the SA/DA trigger would be since I have a USP .45

I think I'm starting to narrow it down to:
1) 9mm = CZ Rami
2) 40SW = HK PK2000sk (don't know if it should be LEM or standard SA/DA trigger)

Not sure which one performs better in such short barrles.

Thanks for the input guys!! Keep them comming. It really helps....you guys helped me decide on my frist 1911 =)

[Sunday]

Something to think about a 442 smith J frame!! It is at its best up close and personal

[Noah3683]

How does everyone feel about the 9mm vs. 40SW in a platform such as a sub-compact? I know most guns will have 10 rounds in 9mm vs. 9 rounds in a 40SW. I personally don't feel losing one round is too much of a concern if the 40SW performs better than the 9mm.

If performace is the same, then I would go with the 9mm.

Thanks for all the inputs!!

M&P40C is 10+1

[tonelar]

Wanna really compact weapon, my Kahr PM9 follows me everywhere. And it's the size of a .380.

[neomedic]

anyone know where I can rent a HK with an LEM trigger to shoot? Don't know if I like that trigger or not.

Still thinking about the HK P2000sk or the CZ Rami.

[IrishPirate]

how about one of these?

[pTa]

if barbie owned a revolver