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  • chiselchst
    Very Nice Honey Badger
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Oct 2008
    • 2025

    Triggers & Accuracy

    I wanted to discuss the correlation between a smooth trigger that has a clean crisp break, and accuracy.

    I have a few handguns, and I was comparing all of the triggers tonight. My Para P14.45 Limited has by far the best trigger out of the group, and I shoot it more accurately than the others. However, it does have the longest sight radius.

    How much of a "good trigger" has an influence on accuracy, versus sight radius? Or is it an equal combination of both (which I would guess?).

    Thanks in advance!
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  • #2
    trickyvic
    Senior Member
    • May 2006
    • 1239

    For me it's all practice. Given enough training I can shoot accurately with all my different trigger systems.

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    • #3
      ty423
      Senior Member
      • May 2006
      • 1301

      I think it has alot to do with the muscles you are using while shooting. What I think makes the most difference to me is the weight of the pull... lighter is alot more accurate and easier to shoot for me...however more dangerous. After that it is how smooth it pulls. Crispness is the least important to me but does make a difference...this is just from my own experience...

      I just remembered that my friend changed his glock to a 3.5# trigger and it was so much easier and groups got tighter...such a cheap mod that almost anybody can do.. but like I said it is more dangerous and wouldn't recommend for carry.
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      • #4
        BamBam-31
        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
        • Dec 2005
        • 5318

        For me, a good trigger pull and clean sight picture are extremely important for accuracy. Trigger pull doesn't have to be a 0.75# glass rod, however. Just not a 12# seven-stage ordeal over gravel. And sights have to be clean and sharp, serrated preferably, w/ some daylight in the gaps.
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        • #5
          XDRoX
          Veteran Member
          • Mar 2009
          • 4420

          IMO trigger is more important than site radius. It would be interesting to see data.
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          Originally posted by Oceanbob
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          • #6
            Shenaniguns
            Calguns Addict
            • Dec 2006
            • 6158

            I'll tell you the difference between a factory M&P 9mm and an Apex Tactical DCAEK made a huge difference in consistency.
            My opinions are my own and do not represent the position of other companies I may be involved with.

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            • #7
              tiko
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2008
              • 866

              Originally posted by XDRoX
              IMO trigger is more important than site radius. It would be interesting to see data.
              I agreed, with good trigger, I can shoot my S&W 2" .357 snubbie better than my 4.5" M&P45.
              Do it yourself.

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              • #8
                UserM4
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2010
                • 1687

                Originally posted by trickyvic
                For me it's all practice. Given enough training I can shoot accurately with all my different trigger systems.
                +1

                I have taken 6 guns to the range before, all with completely different triggers, and after a couple of magazines, I group pretty much the same with all of them except the slight variances in sight radius. A good trigger is nice to have but I've never run across a gun that I couldn't get used to, except one G17 range rental that obviously had a malfunction trigger that stacked and broke at over 12#. I think I could've even got over that one if I had enough ammo left.
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                • #9
                  chiselchst
                  Very Nice Honey Badger
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 2025

                  Originally posted by Shenaniguns
                  I'll tell you the difference between a factory M&P 9mm and an Apex Tactical DCAEK made a huge difference in consistency.
                  I have an M&P 45 in the pipe - and was already planning on some sort of Apex trigger improvement (from the info I've researched about the trigger).

                  Thanks everyone...
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                  Originally posted by Librarian
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                  • #10
                    bombadillo
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Nov 2007
                    • 14810

                    For rifles I think its more of an issue, but most triggers on pistols save a few are decent. I know there are 1911 vs. glock and what not but I can relatively accurately keep similar patterns with all my handguns.

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                    • #11
                      Shenaniguns
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Dec 2006
                      • 6158

                      Originally posted by chiselchst
                      I have an M&P 45 in the pipe - and was already planning on some sort of Apex trigger improvement (from the info I've researched about the trigger).

                      Thanks everyone...

                      I mainly bought an M&P thanks to Apex Tactical
                      My opinions are my own and do not represent the position of other companies I may be involved with.

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                      • #12
                        Shenaniguns
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Dec 2006
                        • 6158

                        BTW, I didn't get specific of my recent experience with a Calgunner's stock M&P vs. my polished DCAEK, but when I was dry firing his gun I couldn't keep the sight from going towards 2 o'clock no matter how much I tried. I believe it was a combination of the gritty break and overtravel that made me do that consistently.
                        My opinions are my own and do not represent the position of other companies I may be involved with.

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                        • #13
                          sholling
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          CGN Contributor
                          • Sep 2007
                          • 10360

                          Practice, practice, practice.
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                          • #14
                            Shenaniguns
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Dec 2006
                            • 6158

                            Originally posted by sholling
                            Practice, practice, practice.


                            Practice with a consistent trigger and good sights >>> *
                            My opinions are my own and do not represent the position of other companies I may be involved with.

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                            • #15
                              sd1023x
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 1016

                              It's all about technique. Me personally, I shoot equally well with a HK USP45 as I do with a Glock 26. Different guns, same consistent outcome for me. Line up those sights and squeeze don't pull the trigger.
                              Originally posted by Shotgun Man
                              Sorry, but I can't help but get a homo-erotic vibe from this thread.

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