Got denied at the range today

[SteveInKA]

I picked up my Five Seven from Turner's last Sunday. Thought i'd go and shoot it for the first time during my lunch break today. I work in the valley so i thought i'd give the closest range a shot.

So I went and bought some ammo from Gun World. Damn the ammo for this gun is expensive. I then drove over to "The Target Range" in Van Nuys. I was like a little boy with his new toy. I was really looking forward to firing the gun and seeing if the lack of recoil is all it's hyped up to be. Much to my disappointment they wouldn't allow me to fire my Five Seven.

No hard feelings. I understand why they wouldn't allow me to fire it. I think my best bet is the rifle range in the Angeles Nat'l. I just hate to have to make that drive everytime i get an itch to shoot the FN. Oh well, back to the 910s and GP100 for now.

[PistolPete75]

how is that range by the way? do they let you fire rifles and stuf? i'm not too far from that place.

[SteveInKA]

how is that range by the way? do they let you fire rifles and stuf? i'm not too far from that place.

Not sure, Pete. That was actually my first time there. If i had to guess i'd say it's just a pistol range. The range couldn't have been more than 50 feet IMO. You may be able to fire off .223, not sure though.

[Teletiger7]

Yes, it is mostly pistol. Use to go there and shoot once in a while. It's ok but the interior ventilation kinda sucks and it's not as well maintained as the firing line.

[Biff...]

I've been to that range, was not very impressed. The lanes were all dirty with trash, not very clean in general, staff wasn't very professional. I'd rather go to Angeles.

[thomasanelson]

Just a note on local ranges:

Angeles Range has both pistol (out to 100yds) and rifle ranges (out to 600yds). No steel core or incindiary bullets.

LAX range is up to 75ft and will allow rifle rounds indoors.

[pnkssbtz]

I just fired a Five Seven for the first time Sunday. Wow!

My S.W. Mk.41 had more felt recoil! It was like the gun stayed there and I was the one moving. I have no idea how that worked out!

The Bentleman who let me fire it also let me fire his HK Elite .45... what a beauty that was... (My other friend let me fire his custom gold cup model 80 and Wilson Combat CQB... it was a good weekend to be had by all!)

[rips31]

lax does allow 5.7, but you gotta buy ammo from them.

i've found ss195/ss197 for $16.65/50, so there is cheap ammo out there.

and yes, the fiveseven is more than it's cracked up to be.

[Moonclip]

I don't reccomend LAX as any improvement over where you were denied, trust me on this. Whyt are ranges denying this caliber, the ammo allowed to us mere "civilians" is not armor piercing and out of a handgun, this caliber is similar to 22mag is'nt it?

[rips31]

what jackson arms used to tell me was that the round moved too fast that it made sparks on the backstop. another thing is that it moves alot faster than standard handgun ammo, which could damage the backstop. assuming one uses ss192/ss195, that will do some damage to steel. ss196/ss197 will just frag.

5.7 is as similar to 22mag as 40sw is similar to 10mm, at least to me.

[saki302]

Hahaha- all bull.

Any standard back stop will catch a SS192/5/7 just fine.
Sparks when it hits the back stop- bull. A .223 doesn't spark, why would a 5.7 round spark?

I can't believe all they hype and myths this round has generated- utterly amazing.
I have one- it works fine. It's not a magic pistol.

-Dave

[Moonclip]

Sparks would result if the ammo has steel in the core or jacket which I doubt with the "civilian" ammo. Does anyone have the ballistics with 5.7 with a handgun length barrel? I have a feeling it's similar to a 22mag rifle. And most ranges allow a 22mag rifle to be shot.

[rips31]

Hahaha- all bull.

Any standard back stop will catch a SS192/5/7 just fine.
Sparks when it hits the back stop- bull. A .223 doesn't spark, why would a 5.7 round spark?

I can't believe all they hype and myths this round has generated- utterly amazing.
I have one- it works fine. It's not a magic pistol.

-Dave

lol...maybe one of the jackson arms ro's can chime in. to be honest, the round did spark when it hit the backstop of the old place, so it's not hype.

[saki302]

Hmm.. unless they were shooting SS190 (TRUE AP core), I don't know what to tell ya- SS192/195 is aluminum core with a copper jacket. The 196/197 has a lead core, copper jacket, and plastic tip.

I don't think aluminum will spark on steel, would it?
If he shot real ss190 (upwards of $20/round to collectors), Iwould cry..

-Dave

[Sarkoon]

I've shot some XM193 5.56 out of my OLL at Jackson arms and the stuff does clearly spark when it hits the backstop. The rangemaster checked the ammo with a magnet before letting me use it, and it passed their test since it doesn't have a steel core.

If you're allowed to shoot 5.56, there's no reason why 5.7 should be denied.

Anyone know what the backstops at Jackson Arms are made out of?