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  • robcoe
    Calguns Addict
    • Apr 2010
    • 8685

    Help getting better groups(warning large pics)

    I am pretty new to handgun shooting(mabey 500 rounds in my life through handguns) and I am wondering if people with more experince can help me out with some tips to improve my shooting. I took these pictures of the last 3 targets I shot at my last range trip so if anyone has some suggestions they would be appreciated. All of these are the NRA 25 yard timed and rapid fire pistol targets, though I shot at only 15 yards.

    bunch of .38 spl rounds


    6 rounds of .38 spl


    6 rounds of .357 magnum
    Last edited by robcoe; 07-02-2010, 11:53 PM.
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  • #2
    UserM4
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2010
    • 1687

    On the .357, it looks like you were anticipating recoil. I'd wager that the bullseye(s) was from the first shot. Anyways, that looks pretty good to me.
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    • #3
      JTROKS
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Nov 2007
      • 13093

      What brand and model gun were you shooting these groups with? Were you shooting slow enough? Double action or single action? Do you shoot with both eyes open or with non-dominant eye squinting? How were you holding the gun and stance you use??
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      • #4
        robcoe
        Calguns Addict
        • Apr 2010
        • 8685

        Originally posted by JTROKS
        What brand and model gun were you shooting these groups with? Were you shooting slow enough? Double action or single action? Do you shoot with both eyes open or with non-dominant eye squinting? How were you holding the gun and stance you use??
        Ruger GP100 6 inch

        2-3 seconds between shots

        MIx of double action and single action in the first pic, 6 shot groups were single action

        Both eyes open

        Two handed grip with equal pressure from both handsm not sure what the stance would be called since I am fairly new.
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        • #5
          Turbinator
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          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Oct 2005
          • 11943

          Try going single action for all your shots. Do some safe dry firing at home first to get a good feel for the trigger. A stock GP100 should have a decent single action trigger, enough to get all of your shots in the X ring at 7 to 10 yards. A stock GP100 also has a front sight that is hard to see. Paint it yellow or orange or some bright color, or put a sticker on it just for the day to bring out the contrast better. Then, practice your breathing, grip, stance, and trigger pull. Cock the hammer with your weak supporting hand's thumb so that you don't disturb your strong hand's grip on the revolver. Take your time, target shooting at the range like this is not a race. Try taking 1 shot every 10 seconds.. really slow it down and concentrate on the front sight. Focus and concentrate before you squeeze the trigger. Your trigger pulls should be done by applying more and more pressure to the trigger until it breaks - don't jerk it or else your shots will pull.

          Good luck,
          Turby

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          • #6
            Snapping Twig
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2007
            • 2090

            Looks like you like magnums best.

            Hold the gun in a modified Weaver, right foot slightly back, torso turned slightly left, right arm straight holding gun, left hand around the right hand, left elbow in.

            Align sights, focus on the front sight and let the target blur, slowly squeeze trigger with the middle of the last pad of your finger and use a straight back pull, not a hook claw slap.

            That's it in a nutshell.

            Now, you need to practice.

            Don't be discouraged, your targets indicate potential and a desire to improve. All journeys are made of individual steps. Keep going forward.
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