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  • #31
    Nate74
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2009
    • 1104

    Yeah, I think I'd like it to at least handle the HP stuff. Range Reloads would also be nice I guess. I guess I'll contact SA in the morning and get the ball rolling.

    Thanks all for your input and thoughts!
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    • #32
      BryanB
      Junior Member
      • May 2010
      • 23

      Nate,

      Yes the 1911 was designed to handle ball ammo, from my experience when you get into Springfield's Loaded models you will start to see the ability for it to take HP ammo. Springfield's custom shop also offers a "Defense Package" that may give you what you need. http://www.springfield-armory.com/custom.php
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      • #33
        Trendkill
        Veteran Member
        • Jul 2008
        • 3492

        100 bucks says its your extractor.
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        • #34
          Nate74
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2009
          • 1104

          Originally posted by Trendkill
          100 bucks says its your extractor.
          Hmmm... I did the test that Black Majik suggested above and the bullet seemed fairly loose. If I understand this correctly, this should say that the extractor is OK.

          Also, as I watch the slide come forward and how the bullet impacts just below the feedramp, it appears that the extract isn't even in contact with the back of the bullet.

          I'm also very curious as to why this only happens on the first bullet to come out of a full magazine, but the rest cycle OK. To much spring tension?

          Strange.
          Last edited by Nate74; 06-23-2010, 11:43 AM.
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          • #35
            Sinixstar
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2009
            • 1520

            Originally posted by Nate74
            Holy crap... I just cycled a couple dozen PMC round through it with zero problems. Tried three or four magazines worth of Magtech rounds too with the same result. Every single one fed beautifully. I tried using the slide release button, I tried racking the slide, hell, I even held it pointing straight into the air and hit the slide release and every single time it chambered the round.

            Is it possible the range reloads had bullets that were further into the casing?

            Or even worse, they weren't actually 230gr and were 185? Would that matter?
            It is entirely possible that the reloads were slightly out of spec, or at least out of spec enough to cause a problem. OAL being off could certainly cause the problem you were having.

            Generally speaking - I've always found it's a good idea to start firing a gun with factory ammo. Even if it's just a box or two to get started. Gives you a more solid point of reference about how the gun functions/performs as factory tends to be more of a known quantity. The fact that you're questioning the quality of the reloads should explain why this is important...

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            • #36
              sd joe
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2010
              • 767

              I didn't read the entire thred, but if you do send it back they have a great turnaround. A couple weeks ago I shot my Trophy Match on a Friday and the front sight snapped off. I called SA and had a return tag and Fed Ex label in less than 5 minutes. I shipped it on Monday and had it back and repaired in exactly two weeks to the day with no hastle.

              Joe

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              • #37
                Hatchet
                Junior Member
                • Jun 2010
                • 26

                Originally posted by Nate74
                Hmmm... I did the test that Black Majik suggested above and the bullet seemed fairly loose. If I understand this correctly, this should say that the extractor is OK.

                Also, as I watch the slide come forward and how the bullet impacts just below the feedramp, it appears that the extract isn't even in contact with the back of the bullet.

                I'm also very curious as to why this only happens on the first bullet to come out of a full magazine, but the rest cycle OK. To much spring tension?

                Strange.
                It should basically push the cartridge up under the extractor as the slide travels forward.

                Just to clarify something, and you probably already know this, but NEVER drop a 1911 slide on a chambered round. Even though the extractor looks like it was designed to slide over the cartridge rim, it isn't. Doing it even one time can spring the extractor. If I'm telling you something obvious, I mean no offense.

                I still stand by what I said earlier, and that is if it's new weapon under warranty I'd take advantage of that and send it back. They may find a problem that you would have missed and you will basically receive back a hand QC'd weapon.

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                • #38
                  bruce381
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 2453

                  ""Is it possible the range reloads had bullets that were further into the casing?""

                  Never base any ammo feeding problems on "reloads" that you did not make and know are correct I would get some real factory and shoot them for a while to break in.

                  I had same problem when I started to reload 45's and getting a dillion die set and case gage solved my problem in that my first relaod were too long and not sized correctly.

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