FNP .45

[xr650r]

Say "hey, get your own".

[Hayashi Killian]

So how would that work if I'm at the range, and a LEO says "hey, let me see that". Do I just make sure I carry the CADOJ paperwork with me any time i'm shooting it?

"No."

[monstertodd]

Say "hey, get your own".

lol, if I say that will it get my pistol confiscated and me in jail? he he.

[huck]

Well, that IS good news then. Thankyou for that tidbit.

So how would that work if I'm at the range, and a LEO says "hey, let me see that". Do I just make sure I carry the CADOJ paperwork with me any time i'm shooting it?

It most likely won't happen. There are several laws like this in CA where it's legal to possess something, but illegal to buy it.

[monstertodd]

All good info everybody thank you.

[DaveFJ80]

You might just be in luck then

There's an exemption to the roster laws for intrafamily gifts. If has to be through parental lineage, though; no brothers or sisters. If you have parents in Virginia that owned an FNP45, they could give it to you as a gift. There's a form to fill out and send to the CADOJ. I'm sure you can find it or someone who has the link handy will post it.

I've been researching the intrafamily transfer rules quite a bit lately for handguns since I'm working on one right now. From what I've found out is that with a handgun transfer, if your parents are not CA residents (in this case they're VA residents), then a CA FFL is needed to do the transfer. His parents can either ship the gun to a CA FFL, or they can go in there in person with him to do the transaction, but it won't be a PPT and will need to be a transfer (with transfer fees applying). The form that needs to be filled out for the CADOJ is taken care of during the time of transfer at the FFL.

A couple more hurdles to jump through, but still easy enough to accomplish.

[bigbob76]

I've been researching the intrafamily transfer rules quite a bit lately for handguns since I'm working on one right now. From what I've found out is that with a handgun transfer, if your parents are not CA residents (in this case they're VA residents), then a CA FFL is needed to do the transfer. His parents can either ship the gun to a CA FFL, or they can go in there in person with him to do the transaction, but it won't be a PPT and will need to be a transfer (with transfer fees applying). The form that needs to be filled out for the CADOJ is taken care of during the time of transfer at the FFL.

A couple more hurdles to jump through, but still easy enough to accomplish.

I'm not going to say you're wrong but I will say there have been thousands of these transfers done differently than you describe.

[monstertodd]

Hey guys,

So I found this form on the CA DOJ website.

Is this the form I need for this type of transfer?

[civilsnake]

So how would that work if I'm at the range, and a LEO says "hey, let me see that". Do I just make sure I carry the CADOJ paperwork with me any time i'm shooting it?

There is no law prohibiting the ownership of any handgun as long as it's not an "assault weapon", which a standard FNP45 is not based on its standard configuration. The tactical version has a threaded barrel, which is a nono in this state (assault weapon status for pistols).

Your parent can't legally give you the full capacity magazines, though. You would need to receive them disassembled and either permanently modify them to 10-rounders or just leave them apart in the state and buy 10-rounders from FN.

The DOJ paperwork is just for putting registration in your name. There's no need to carry a copy since the gun is perfectly legal to own. If a cop wants to see it you can let him or not. You can't get in trouble for it.

I've been researching the intrafamily transfer rules quite a bit lately for handguns since I'm working on one right now. From what I've found out is that with a handgun transfer, if your parents are not CA residents (in this case they're VA residents), then a CA FFL is needed to do the transfer. His parents can either ship the gun to a CA FFL, or they can go in there in person with him to do the transaction, but it won't be a PPT and will need to be a transfer (with transfer fees applying). The form that needs to be filled out for the CADOJ is taken care of during the time of transfer at the FFL.

A couple more hurdles to jump through, but still easy enough to accomplish.

I'm honestly not sure if these gift transfers require an FFL or not if there's shipping involved. I assume there would be. However, if your parents flew out to visit you and brought it with them, no FFL would be necessary for the transfer. The DOJ form would need to be sent in with the $19 fee so that California would know that the gun is now yours and register it to your name.

[monstertodd]

There is no law prohibiting the ownership of any handgun as long as it's not an "assault weapon", which a standard FNP45 is not based on its standard configuration. The tactical version has a threaded barrel, which is a nono in this state (assault weapon status for pistols).

Your parent can't legally give you the full capacity magazines, though. You would need to receive them disassembled and either permanently modify them to 10-rounders or just leave them apart in the state and buy 10-rounders from FN.

The DOJ paperwork is just for putting registration in your name. There's no need to carry a copy since the gun is perfectly legal to own. If a cop wants to see it you can let him or not. You can't get in trouble for it.


I'm honestly not sure if these gift transfers require an FFL or not if there's shipping involved. I assume there would be. However, if your parents flew out to visit you and brought it with them, no FFL would be necessary for the transfer. The DOJ form would need to be sent in with the $19 fee so that California would know that the gun is now yours and register it to your name.

Yea, luckily FNH has two different part numbers for the FNP45. One is for the high capacity mags, and the other is for a 10 round mag.

More than likely, I would go to VA and receive the gift from my parents, and then transport it back to CA and send the paperwork in. But that is the correct form that I posted above yes?

[civilsnake]

Yea, luckily FNH has two different part numbers for the FNP45. One is for the high capacity mags, and the other is for a 10 round mag.

More than likely, I would go to VA and receive the gift from my parents, and then transport it back to CA and send the paperwork in. But that is the correct form that I posted above yes?

Yes it is.

[till44]

I owned one for a bit last year.

What I liked: very rough textured grip, I liked the ability to adjust size/shape of the grip, great point of aim, ambi mag release, and I loved the 15-14 rounds of 45!

What I didn't like: lack of holsters and ambi safety. I have big hands and with my thumb over thumb grip, every time I fired it would shove the pivot point of the safety into the base of my thumb. I tried adjusting my grip but couldn't break my habit/training. I kept the USP 45 and the G21 Ambi SF and sold the FNP.

If it fits your grip and style then its a great gun though.

[saber]

You can't go out of state to receive a handgun since the BATFE (Federal Government) says that interstate transfers of firearms have to occur through a dealer. You can still physically do it but you would be in violation of Federal Law.

[Quiet]

More than likely, I would go to VA and receive the gift from my parents, and then transport it back to CA and send the paperwork in. But that is the correct form that I posted above yes?

If you do this, both you and your parents will be committing Federal felonies.

I'm honestly not sure if these gift transfers require an FFL or not if there's shipping involved. I assume there would be. However, if your parents flew out to visit you and brought it with them, no FFL would be necessary for the transfer. The DOJ form would need to be sent in with the $19 fee so that California would know that the gun is now yours and register it to your name.

A CA FFL DEALER IS REQUIRED.

It does not matter if the handgun is shipped or if his parents bring it to CA, it must be transfered through a CA FFL dealer.

Federal laws prohibits the transfer of firearms between non-licensed residents of different states, unless the transfer is done through a FFL dealer in the recipiant's state of residence. [18 USC 922(a)(3) & (5)]

There is no gift exemption to the Federal laws.

So, in order to comply with Federal laws, the handgun must be transfered through a CA FFL dealer.

Failure to do so equates to a Federal felony for the giver and a a Federal felony for the receiver.

Just sending in the form will satisfy CA state law, but it also documents that the parties involved violated Federal laws.

[monstertodd]

If you do this, both you and your parents will be committing Federal felonies.



A CA FFL DEALER IS REQUIRED.

It does not matter if the handgun is shipped or if his parents bring it to CA, it must be transfered through a CA FFL dealer.

Federal laws prohibits the transfer of firearms between non-licensed residents of different states, unless the transfer is done through a FFL dealer in the recipiant's state of residence. [18 USC 922(a)(3) & (5)]

There is no gift exemption to the Federal laws.

So, in order to comply with Federal laws, the handgun must be transfered through a CA FFL dealer.

Failure to do so equates to a Federal felony for the giver and a a Federal felony for the receiver.

Just sending in the form will satisfy CA state law, but it also documents that the parties involved violated Federal laws.

Ahhh, point taken. Thankyou for posting that. So then it would be better to transfer the gun through an FFL. lol.

I definitely don't want to make myself or my parents convicted felons.