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  • tetris
    Member
    • Apr 2007
    • 256

    Handgun Residency Question

    I have a question regarding residency for the purposes of purchasing a handgun in California.

    I have a valid CA license, I'm registered to vote in CA and I just purchased a long gun only a few months ago there. However, I'm out of state a lot, as I am a student.

    The question arises because I am purchasing a new car very soon, and I am afraid that if I register the vehicle in another state, that it may cause me to fail the residency test when I purchase a handgun in CA. I will keep my drivers license as a CA driver's license. EDIT: I also have a cable service in CA, which I will use to prove my residency to the gun store.

    Does anybody know if this is a possibility, or are my fears unfounded?

    Thanks
  • #2
    Nismo
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2006
    • 567

    landline, cable, utility bill within the last 3 months I believe. You can also get a notarized letter signed with your landlord or whoever you live with.

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    • #3
      boogak
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
      CGN Contributor
      • Mar 2006
      • 1672

      i use my cable bill

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      • #4
        goldfinger
        Member
        • Dec 2006
        • 483

        i use my waste management bill, which is billed every 3 months.
        Without HIM, we cannot. Without us, HE will not.

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        That's just the way of the world, man. It's called the hook up. If you work at McDonald's you get free fries. Starbucks employees get free coffee. Cops, well you get the idea...
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        • #5
          Greg-Dawg
          Banned
          • Oct 2006
          • 7793

          You're good to go.

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          • #6
            Jason_R
            Member
            • Apr 2006
            • 379

            Why don't you buy firearms in the state that you stay in most of the time?

            Also...is it possible to keep residency in Utah while going to school in California, legally!?

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            • #7
              scootergmc
              Veteran Member
              • Mar 2006
              • 4089

              Originally posted by Jason_R
              Why don't you buy firearms in the state that you stay in most of the time?

              Also...is it possible to keep residency in Utah while going to school in California, legally!?
              Yes. You're considered an out of state resident for tuition purposes, yes? Although (DMV) CA will try to tell you that if you've been in the state for (I think) 6 months you're a resident. I'd tell them to pound sand. Someone correct me because I'm probably wrong.

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              • #8
                Quiet
                retired Goon
                • Mar 2007
                • 30242

                Originally posted by tetris
                The question arises because I am purchasing a new car very soon, and I am afraid that if I register the vehicle in another state, that it may cause me to fail the residency test when I purchase a handgun in CA. I will keep my drivers license as a CA driver's license.
                Are you buying this car in CA?
                If so, you can't have it registered in another state.

                Also, once you have become a resident of CA, you have 20 days to register your vehicle in CA. Otherwise, your vehicle could be towed and you will be fined.

                Visitors whose vehicles are properly registered to them in their home state may operate their vehicles in California until they:

                Accept gainful employment in California.
                Claim a homeowner's exemption in California.
                Rent or lease a residence in California.
                Intend to live or be located here on a permanent basis (for example, acquire a California driver license, acquire other licenses not ordinarily extended to a nonresident, registered to vote).
                Enroll in an institution of higher learning as a California resident or enroll their dependents in school (K-12).
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                "If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." - Dalai Lama (Seattle Times, 05-15-2001).

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                • #9
                  Jason_R
                  Member
                  • Apr 2006
                  • 379

                  Originally posted by scootergmc
                  Yes. You're considered an out of state resident for tuition purposes, yes? Although (DMV) CA will try to tell you that if you've been in the state for (I think) 6 months you're a resident. I'd tell them to pound sand. Someone correct me because I'm probably wrong.
                  I'm paying in-state tuition as I've attended the same college before and my parents live in California...

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                  • #10
                    Quiet
                    retired Goon
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 30242

                    Originally posted by Jason_R
                    I'm paying in-state tuition as I've attended the same college before and my parents live in California...
                    Do you have a CA DL or a UT DL?
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                    "If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." - Dalai Lama (Seattle Times, 05-15-2001).

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                    • #11
                      Jason_R
                      Member
                      • Apr 2006
                      • 379

                      Originally posted by Quiet
                      Do you have a CA DL or a UT DL?
                      Utah...

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                      • #12
                        Quiet
                        retired Goon
                        • Mar 2007
                        • 30242

                        Originally posted by Jason_R
                        Utah...
                        As long as you don't register to vote in CA, aquire CA ID/DL, get a job or pay for any utilities in CA.

                        You should be considered a UT resident that is temporarily residing in CA.
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                        "If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." - Dalai Lama (Seattle Times, 05-15-2001).

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                        • #13
                          tetris
                          Member
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 256

                          Originally posted by Quiet
                          As long as you don't register to vote in CA, aquire CA ID/DL, get a job or pay for any utilities in CA.

                          You should be considered a UT resident that is temporarily residing in CA.
                          I don't know if I buy the part about the utilities. A lot of people have summer homes in different states. I called the CA DOJ BOF and spoke to the actual lady who rejects people's gun applications. She said all that matters is:

                          (1) That you have a valid CA driver's license
                          (2) You have a proof of residency at the point of sale, which the DOJ never even sees

                          In other words, all of the residency verification is done by the FFL, in the form of a utility bill or other document, and is not handled by the DOJ.

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                          • #14
                            thefinger
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2006
                            • 1651

                            I'm a student from CA that lives in Missouri most of the time. I've bought guns in both states. I also have a CA drivers license and a MO state I.D.....


                            if you have the proper I.D. and are buying the rifle/handgun in the state which you maintain legal residence, then you have nothing to worry about. As a student, I am considered a legal resident in MO as long as I have been here for 3 months prior to purchasing a firearm. I'm not sure what the laws in Utah/CA are, but I bet they are similar. I'm sure you can find out from the University you are attending,

                            A lot of the people on calguns are great sources for information, but when it comes to the college situation people can be somewhat misinformed. I know a lot about the federal law on these matters. If you want to PM me, go ahead and I can explain what I know.

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                            • #15
                              blackbox
                              Member
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 262

                              from the horse's mouth

                              Fortunately, in this case, the BATF makes the federal situation very clear:

                              If a person maintains a home in 2 States and resides in both States for certain periods of the year, he or she may, during the period of time the person actually resides in a particular State, purchase a handgun in that State.

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