AR-15 pistols

[chaseface]

Not sure if i should post this in the handgun or centerfire section, but can someone please inform me as to the legality of AR-15 pistols in california? sometimes its hard to separate fact from fiction. I have a few questions.

1. I have heard that it is illegal to have a pistol with a magazine not located in the pistol grip.
2.I have also heard that pistols can not have threaded barrels for a flash hider or muzzle break?
3. Also if the AR pistol is legal, i understand that for a forward pistol grip you must first receive an AOW tax stamp from the ATF. Are AOW's legal in California?

Please forgive my ignorance. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks

Chaseface

[Gio]

Oh no! I guess mine is illegal



Answers:

1.) Not if there is a mag lock on the pistol

2.) Same answer as #1

3.) As far as I know an AOW is obtainable only if you have a Trust or have a Sheriff sign off on it. There is a thread that is like a million pages long that explains the ins and outs of setting up a trust and getting AOW Stamps and such.

Personally I do not see much need for a forward grip on most AR/AK Pistols.

[ke6guj]

Not sure if i should post this in the handgun or centerfire section, but can someone please inform me as to the legality of AR-15 pistols in california? sometimes its hard to separate fact from fiction. I have a few questions.

you need to read the handgun flowchart, http://www.calguns.net/caawid/hgflowchart.pdf , to see how all the different federal and state laws interact related to the possession of a specific handgun. The flowchart covers the legality of the handgun as it sits there, but does not deal with purchase issues like the Roster.

1. I have heard that it is illegal to have a pistol with a magazine not located in the pistol grip.
2.I have also heard that pistols can not have threaded barrels for a flash hider or muzzle break?

depends on the configuration. Look at the handgun flowchart for more info.

3. Also if the AR pistol is legal, i understand that for a forward pistol grip you must first receive an AOW tax stamp from the ATF. Are AOW's legal in California?

yes, if properly registered as an AOW, a VFG'ed pistol is legal in CA, provided that it is not otherwise an AW.

[Josh3239]

1) The handgun must either not be semi-automatic or must not have detachable magazines to legally have this feature.

2) The handgun must either not be semi-automatic or must not have detachable magazines to legally have threaded barrels.

3) Look in Ke6guj's signature about how to obtain an AOW.

[chaseface]

thanks for the good info guys. it is appreciated

[E-120]

You should get one and spread the good word.

[chaseface]

I am debating whether to start with an AR pistol or a .50 beowulf AR-15. The only problem with the beowulf is the super expensive ammo. But atleast with the beowulf i don't have to spend a couple months waiting for a AOW tax stamp before i can build it how i want. so many choices.
Chase

[Cokebottle]

How about a .50 beowulf AR-15 pistol?

[chaseface]

How about a .50 beowulf AR-15 pistol?

HAHA I like your style but i would be worried about the kick (similar to a 12 gauge) without the shoulder stock, even with a good muzzle break. Can you imagine the fireball that would come out of that sucker. I have seen an AR-15 socom .458 pistol at ar15.com tho. Looked pretty cool. But I think if i was going to do a big cal AR pistol i would have to go with a 10-11.5" barrel and i would prefer a 7 1/2".

[Z ME FLY]

How about a FAL pistol?

or PSL pistol

[Beelzy]

WANT!!!