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  • sbullet88
    Junior Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 14

    DO I NEED TO PAY FOR THIS?

    I did a PPT in a local FFL, the handgun come with a lock but the clerk automatic charged me a new lock. Even I told him i got gun safe at home plus the gun come with lock, his answer is the lock has to be purchase within 30 days of this transfer.
    Is this true?? I did PPT at other location and never hear of such thing....
  • #2
    ocxpirate13
    Member
    • Jul 2009
    • 171

    Yes that is true but if you fill out a safe affidavit you shouldn't have to pay.

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    • #3
      huggybear
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2009
      • 725

      i thought the safe affidavit is only for shotguns and long rifles.

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      • #4
        addiction
        Member
        • Dec 2008
        • 249

        depends, some counties/citys seem to have different rules....I have had to buy a lock, I have had only to declare a safe...so it depends....

        Jim
        "What are the marks of a sick culture? It is a bad sign when the people of a country stop identifying themselves with the county and start identifying with a group. A racial group. Or a religion. Or a language. Anything, as long as it isn't the whole population."

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        • #5
          BONECUTTER
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2007
          • 2263

          Safe affidavit is only for rifles and shotguns so you do need a lock receipt dated within the last 30. Depending on the FFL some will let the Seller write a receipt for the lock.

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          • #6
            mswanson223
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2009
            • 685

            The last ppt I did the a-hole tried to sell me a lock even though the gun came with one.They also srewed up my paperwork.

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            • #7
              addiction
              Member
              • Dec 2008
              • 249

              Originally posted by BONECUTTER
              Safe affidavit is only for rifles and shotguns so you do need a lock receipt dated within the last 30. Depending on the FFL some will let the Seller write a receipt for the lock.
              depends on where I have bought handguns within the past week and only needed the safe affidavit....the rules are not statewide, they are more local....
              "What are the marks of a sick culture? It is a bad sign when the people of a country stop identifying themselves with the county and start identifying with a group. A racial group. Or a religion. Or a language. Anything, as long as it isn't the whole population."

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              • #8
                ke6guj
                Moderator
                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                • Nov 2003
                • 23725

                the safe affidavit is only good for long guns, since the feds have their own handgun lock law, and dont' accept the CA safe affidavit.

                However, you did buy a handgun lock in the last 30-days. You bought it from the seller when you bought the handgun. perhaps you can have the seller write a receipt stating that he sold you the lock. It really shouldnt matter through. the FFL should be able to note that the handgun came with a lock provided, in the same manner that they note a lock came with handgun from Glock or Springfield.
                Jack



                Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?

                No posts of mine are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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                • #9
                  civilsnake
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2008
                  • 2261

                  The requirement is that you're supposed to have 1 lock for every pistol. They require a receipt showing a lock purchase within the last 30 days to prove that you didn't just take a lock off of another gun. However, if the gun being sold to you had a lock in the case, what they did was kinda stupid. It's really just a corporate policy thing.
                  Then another horse PONY came out, a fiery red one. Its rider was given power to take peace from the earth and to make men slay each other. To him was given a huge sword. My kinda guy.

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                  • #10
                    ke6guj
                    Moderator
                    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                    • Nov 2003
                    • 23725

                    Originally posted by addiction
                    depends on where I have bought handguns within the past week and only needed the safe affidavit....the rules are not statewide, they are more local....
                    The rules in question are federal, so it should apply anywhere in the country. You just had a dealer who didn't follow the federal law.
                    Jack



                    Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?

                    No posts of mine are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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                    • #11
                      winnre
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 9214

                      Because a lock 31 days old is not secure enough????
                      "If Jesus had a gun he would be alive today"-Homer Simpson

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                      • #12
                        M. D. Van Norman
                        Veteran Member
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 4168

                        Matthew D. Van Norman
                        Dancing Giant Sales | Licensed Firearms Dealer | Rainier, WA

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                        • #13
                          addiction
                          Member
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 249

                          Originally posted by ke6guj
                          The rules in question are federal, so it should apply anywhere in the country. You just had a dealer who didn't follow the federal law.
                          yes some are federal, but I very much doubt all the gun shops that I have used in San Jose are all violating federal law by only asking for the safe affidavit, I really don't "know", so I could be totally wrong, but it is more than one gun shop who did not ask for anything more, only one shop in Livermore made me buy a lock, and even they told me if I bought a lock they would do a "trade" for one and that met the law requirements....

                          Jim
                          "What are the marks of a sick culture? It is a bad sign when the people of a country stop identifying themselves with the county and start identifying with a group. A racial group. Or a religion. Or a language. Anything, as long as it isn't the whole population."

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                          • #14
                            Vacaville
                            Veteran Member
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 4360

                            The assumption is that you took the old lock off another gun, so there would still be an unlocked gun. Stupid - yes, but I think it's the law. I just buy a new lock at Wally World and then return it after I've picked up my new gun (since I have a safe).

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                            • #15
                              Vepr62
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2006
                              • 1216

                              I don't argue

                              Like the title said, I don't argue with store emloyees. I just keep the receipt and packaging stuff and return it to the store as soon as I am in that neighborhood. I keep my guns in the safe, and I transport them in locked containers, so I don't need a lock for each HG i own. And paying $10 for a $.30 made in China lock is ridiculous.


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