need some advice choosing a SIG

[neomentat]

I'm currently looking at 2 different .45 caliber sigs, the P220 and the Revolution XO 1911 Stainless. I can't decide between the two, can someone give me some input on this?

I love how the Revolution looks, especially in stainless. But I heard really bad things about these guns, supposedly they FTF alot and jams up all the time. Is that why they're only going for $630 new?

I like the P220 well enough but the 1911 frame fits my hand better, since they both hold about the same amount in the mag, what's the real advantage of a P220 over a 1911 type besides the decocker?

[Overkill]

The P220 is a reliable, accurate platform out of the box. The 1911 has the potential to be just as reliable and even more accurate, but this usually requires more attention and work to get them there.

The XO version of the Revolution is the lower-cost version of the Revolution line. Cost is kept low with more inexpensive finishes, less expensive grips and non night sights. They are still good guns. The Sig line of pistols is made with very good parts. Any decent 'smith can work out the problems that may exist in the Revolution. Many of the complaints with the Sig 1911s existed in the GSR series (not reliable, issues with hammer lean, etc).

Noted Sig speciallist and Master level shooter Bruse Gray recommends the Revolution for a 1911 platform. For the price, it has excellent parts and is a fantastic platform for a more custom pistol.

Go with what fits you the best, and what you think you will like the most in the end. We can give you our opinions all day long, but you are ultimately the one who needs to be satisfied with the pistol.

As for me, I would vote Revolution just because I prefer the 1911 platform. For a purely defensive pistol, however, the P220 is hard to beat.

[Satex]

If the 1911 fits your hand well, its a big plus! I also like the Sig GSR family and I fondled the stainless at Turner's last week. Based on my limited research, the early Sig 1911 platforms had issues. Many claim that those issues went away after about a year making that line. I hope that is true, because I can hear that Stainless GSR calling out to me!

[cho034442]

[Miltiades]

Which P220?

Sig makes many different varieties of the P220, and when you say you're comparing a P220 to a Sig 1911, I get the impression you are comparing a DA/SA P220 to the SA Sig 1911.

If that is the case, you can make a closer comparison by considering the single action only versions of the P220, which are more similar to the 1911 in trigger function. Here is the Sig P220 Carry in SAO (single action only) configuration, which is on the CA approved list:

[mike100]

The 22x series of Sigs are the original European designed pistols with a long history of quality and engineering improvements. This is what sig is famous for.

The GSR is a copy of a 1911 and it is new and hard to make right out of the box.

You should buy both and simply sell off one or keep them both depending on if you like them etc.

[eviioiive]

i have some of each and plan on getting some of the new 220 options... depends on what you like... as said before a lot of teething issues with the GSR also i worked at a gun store and we had smith 1911 display models breaking and many paras came back with various problems... didnt have any kimbers, sig gsr(didnt really sell any) or springfields come back.

[gimmejr]

I have one of each and was a little nervous buying a GSR but so far no problems. Youd probable be happy with either but once you bought one youd want the other so get both.

[dwightlooi]

The SIG will have more recoil flip than the 1911 because of its high barrel axis in relation to the web of your hand. The SIG also has a double action trigger which has a longer pull with than a single action trigger with significant overtravel. Nonetheless, the pull is pretty smooth on the SIGs. 1911 trigger pulls will be shorter, usually with very little or no over travel. But 1911 triggers range from glass rod 2 pounders to horrible ones with very heavy and coarse breaks. The SIG will function flawless out of the box, a 1911 may do just as well or may be problematic depending on the gun.

[neomentat]

1911 question?

thanks for the wealth of information on the 2 guns, at this point i'm leaning toward a 1911 since I find it to be a more natural pointer in my hands over the p220.

However, I know absolutely nothing about 1911s and budget is a problem. Since i'm not willing to gamble on getting a GSR Revolution I'm thinking of getting just a plain 1911.

I'm looking at the Rock Island Armory 1911A1 and the .38 super version, but from what I've read it seems that these guns don't have a firing pin stop and they're not drop tested. Am I able to add some sort of aftermarket safety to make it more secure? How much will this cost or should I just go with a 1911 loaded?

[Quiet]

I'm looking at the Rock Island Armory 1911A1 and the .38 super version, but from what I've read it seems that these guns don't have a firing pin stop and they're not drop tested. Am I able to add some sort of aftermarket safety to make it more secure? How much will this cost or should I just go with a 1911 loaded?

I believe the Rock Island Armory 1911A1 is not CA approved.

[boogak]

i like the 220
someone selling one in the classifieds right now
a sig 220 stainless for 650
not bad

[cho034442]

If you want a 1911, get the .45, there are many after market parts for it.
The Revolution XO is a good value for the price you mentioned. Another option would be the basic Kimber. The Custom II works well out of the box.
If $ is tight, see if you can find a used GSR, Kimber Custom II, Springfield Loaded (or a Mil Spec), or Smith and Wesson PD1911.
I would save and wait until I have the funds for any of those, but if you must buy one now, go with the Mil Spec Springfield and then upgrade it from there. Keep in mind that some parts do require a Gun Smith to fit, which would be extra.

[aca72]

The SIGARMS GSR Revolution is never a SIG Sauer. It's just another 1911.

[RT13]

I would choose a P220ST over a P220 or GSR. You already know the problems with the Sig 1911's. A P220 is a good gun but the P220ST is a fantastic gun. I've had mine since 2001 with thousands of rounds through it and it has been accurate and reliable since day 1. I use to own a P220 and the ST version is much nicer to shoot. If you are not going to carry this pistol, I don't see any reason to get the more compact Carry version. The fullsize P220ST is a great shooter.