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  • xxsleepyxx
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2009
    • 767

    Is Walther still making PPK's?

    I've been wary ever since S&W totally messed up the PPK name in America. Are they still making them (either S&W or Walther) and are they still available here in stores?
  • #2
    Ranger20
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2008
    • 1610

    Originally posted by xxsleepyxx
    I've been wary ever since S&W totally messed up the PPK name in America. Are they still making them (either S&W or Walther) and are they still available here in stores?


    True the SW walthers are not the quality of the past european made ones.. I'm being nice...


    Find a nice older european made walther and you will be set..

    These folks service them and also have some for sale... very expensive though.





    Best in your quest... Stay away from SW walthers.. They are not even built to the original internal specs or design. So much so that original german made parts won't fit into a S&W made ppk... Sure They look nice and have a longer beavertail so you won't get the slide bite. but they are prone to problems. Not all of them and you will soon get people saying how good theirs have been... Im sure.....

    If you are after a ppk or ppks do yourself a favor and talk to the above listed Earls Repair and they will tell you the real story on the American made Walthers sad but true... and the european made walthers.... I sold mine to my brother... he will never sell it back to me... The SIG 232 is another nice option a little bigger but a new wonderful design similar in many ways to the walther and accurate and dependable.

    Again, for arond $400 and up ... Find a nice older european made walther and you will be set.. almost all european made walthers were really made by the Manurhin Plant... in "France" some were later roll marked with ULM in Germany and recorded as being built in Germany as where the roll mark is done is where the euros consider it made... But all the parts and most of the PP series guns were made in France... after WWII Look on the web if you need to know more about it... So if you find a PPK that is stamped MANURHIN it's still a walther and every bit as quality as the only difference is the name rolled on the slide.. Hint.. You can sometimes get a screaming deal on a Manurhin... because the owner doesn't think it's a real walther..
    Last edited by Ranger20; 04-01-2010, 8:57 AM.
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    • #3
      xxsleepyxx
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2009
      • 767

      Great insight.

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      • #4
        chsk9
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2006
        • 1356

        I have a old ppk/s. I would see if you can borrow one before you buy. I can't hit doodly squat with mine past about 10 feet.

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        • #5
          Bug Splat
          Calguns Addict
          • Dec 2007
          • 6561

          I have a PP taken off the Walther assembly line during WW2 and it is just stunning! The quality is just amazing even 65 years later. The Germans sure knew how to make quality firearms even during war times. I checked out the newer walthers and was not impressed at all. The finish was crappy, the trigger was heavy and gritty. I ended up getting a Bersa for half the price and it is much better built than the walther/S&W.

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          • #6
            xxsleepyxx
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2009
            • 767

            Damn. I seriously did NOT know the PPK's were different than back in the day. That is outrageous filth.

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            • #7
              neuron
              Member
              • Mar 2010
              • 257

              I bought a Smith PPK/S in December 2009. It was fabricated after the "recall" and my understanding is that these "post-recall" guns were hand-fitted at the S&W plant and well made. I have put my "new" PPK/S through the mill, and I've got to say that it is a fine gun. No misfires with the different ammo (more than 500 rounds now) I've put through it. I may have been "lucky" and got a good gun.

              I've shot some older IA and German tooled Walthers. I've read about how these older guns are "better made" than the Smiths. I don't concur. The older guns were made on older machines that didn't use CNC (computerized machining) technology, and depended on skilled machinists to "make the parts fit" by lots of hand machining. Fine, but the newer computerized technology allows for better construction, all things being equal.

              I've heard that PPK/S's sent back to S&W for "fixing" have been hit or miss. My advice is to buy a "post-recall" manufactured gun from Smith.

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              • #8
                blackfalcon
                Member
                • Aug 2008
                • 375

                I've read on the walther forums about lots of problems of jamming with the SW PPk/PPks, but fortunately I haven't had any problems with mine. I have a SW PPK which I like, but had to wait nearly three months for the recall to be returned. A bit heavy, especially the trigger pull but still a very nice pistol. When I compared it to my 1935 made PPK, there is really no comparison. The pre-war PPK is .32 caliber so it doesn't snap as bad as the .380 round. Also, the weight is much lighter. Both guns have shot well and enjoy them both.

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                • #9
                  Artery
                  Member
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 280

                  Originally posted by Ranger20
                  Stay away from SW walthers...

                  ...you will soon get people saying how good theirs have been... Im sure.....

                  I love mine!

                  ...but I'll admit I still want a "real" German one.
                  Long time Garand shooter, recent AR convert
                  Fast is fine, accuracy is final. You got to learn to shoot slow, real fast...

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                  • #10
                    goathead
                    Veteran Member
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 3601

                    i hate ppk i sold mine it kick bad for 380 and it keeped cutting my hand when i fired it

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