This is not rehtorical but an honest question. Back in 1980 I was 17 yrs old, saved my pennies over the years and finally had a few hundred bucks to treat myself to something I've always wanted - a gov't model 1911 .45! I think the attraction came from watching all those "war" movies with pops and him always talking about what a great gun the 1911 was. He was never into guns himself.
I had gone to gun stores and thought the gun was a bit pricey for me and stopped looking. Then I heard about gun shows, WOW! swap meets for guns. I find out about a show at the anaheim convention center so I gather up my pennies again and off I go. DAMN, row after row of guns, people with back packs selling guns (inventory list attached to the outside of their back packs) it was amazing. Once the glaze vanished from my eyes I'm off to find a deal on a gov't model 1911 .45 and sure enough I do - $300 (a few extra mags) bought me a gov't 1911 in pristine condition. I give the guy $300 he gives me the gun and we're all happy. No transfer paper work no nothing. Mind you I was 17 and didn't know about guns having to be registered/transferred, I was really just happy to have finally bought the gun of my dreams (which i still have BTW). I saw sales conducted in the isles, in the parking lot, the snackbar lines and it was all no big deal.
I dropped out of the gun scene between the years 1989-2000 only slightly following the goings on via headline "gun" news stories (assault weapon ban, mag capacity etc). Fast forward to 2002 when I start buying guns again [and here's my main question] and everyone is very anal about registering/transferring etc. I mean you have always had to legally transfer handguns I know this (just like selling a car) but back in the 80's anyway nobody really cared or thought about it, private sales were akin to selling someone a pair of sunglasses now-a-days heaven forbid. I remember buying a walther PPK by handing over $350 cash to a guy at a gun range (now insight in artesia) and the only paper work was a receipt signed by both of us and a copy of the ad he had posted @ the range.
I get it, i get it, the paperwork was always the way and it is the right & legal way to do this but outside of buying a gun from a guy parked in an alley the "paperwork" part of a gun purchase is now first and foremost in the transaction process when before it was an after thought.
Lately I have attended gun shows in Vegas & in AZ and they're still pretty much the way they used to be here (in So Calif) back in the 80's anyway. A lot of cash & carry deals still happen there and about the only sellers asking you to fill out paper work are those that own gun stores.
SO WHAT CHANGED? Caveat, this isn't a question bashing the paper-work required to purchase a gun BUT a legit question as to what changed in the gun world to make cash & carry gun deals an evil thing. The internet?
BTW, I did register that .45 I bought in 1980 2 years later by taking to my local LA CO sheriff's office. All my cash & carry purchased guns from the 80's were, at one point or another, registered to me.
Awaiting your replies.
THX
I had gone to gun stores and thought the gun was a bit pricey for me and stopped looking. Then I heard about gun shows, WOW! swap meets for guns. I find out about a show at the anaheim convention center so I gather up my pennies again and off I go. DAMN, row after row of guns, people with back packs selling guns (inventory list attached to the outside of their back packs) it was amazing. Once the glaze vanished from my eyes I'm off to find a deal on a gov't model 1911 .45 and sure enough I do - $300 (a few extra mags) bought me a gov't 1911 in pristine condition. I give the guy $300 he gives me the gun and we're all happy. No transfer paper work no nothing. Mind you I was 17 and didn't know about guns having to be registered/transferred, I was really just happy to have finally bought the gun of my dreams (which i still have BTW). I saw sales conducted in the isles, in the parking lot, the snackbar lines and it was all no big deal.
I dropped out of the gun scene between the years 1989-2000 only slightly following the goings on via headline "gun" news stories (assault weapon ban, mag capacity etc). Fast forward to 2002 when I start buying guns again [and here's my main question] and everyone is very anal about registering/transferring etc. I mean you have always had to legally transfer handguns I know this (just like selling a car) but back in the 80's anyway nobody really cared or thought about it, private sales were akin to selling someone a pair of sunglasses now-a-days heaven forbid. I remember buying a walther PPK by handing over $350 cash to a guy at a gun range (now insight in artesia) and the only paper work was a receipt signed by both of us and a copy of the ad he had posted @ the range.
I get it, i get it, the paperwork was always the way and it is the right & legal way to do this but outside of buying a gun from a guy parked in an alley the "paperwork" part of a gun purchase is now first and foremost in the transaction process when before it was an after thought.
Lately I have attended gun shows in Vegas & in AZ and they're still pretty much the way they used to be here (in So Calif) back in the 80's anyway. A lot of cash & carry deals still happen there and about the only sellers asking you to fill out paper work are those that own gun stores.
SO WHAT CHANGED? Caveat, this isn't a question bashing the paper-work required to purchase a gun BUT a legit question as to what changed in the gun world to make cash & carry gun deals an evil thing. The internet?
BTW, I did register that .45 I bought in 1980 2 years later by taking to my local LA CO sheriff's office. All my cash & carry purchased guns from the 80's were, at one point or another, registered to me.
Awaiting your replies.
THX

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