glock experts

[glockmeister]

Hey everyone. I am hoping some of you glock experts can give me some feedback on a simple upgrade I did to my g19. I dropped in a spring kit. Sorry for not knowing the technical names, but they were the tiny spring on the ejector button thing, the firing pin spring and the trigger spring (the one with two hooks inside the frame. Lastly, I replaced the "y" shaped bar that is on the trigger group.

My question is how reliable are these new components? I heard they end up with light primer strikes. Others have had no problems. Any bad experiences? Positive ones? The main reason I did this was to improve the trigger pull, which is not light and crisp. I use the g19 for uspsa/ipsc stuff. Yeah, I know, why use a compact for that? Its the only handgun I had at the time. Now thay I got a 1911, the glock is going to be used for competition only.

Anyway, please tell me your experiences with this kit if you have had any. Or what you've "heard" from others. Thanks in advance!!

[I Like Guns]

Sorry, I can't help with any experience about the kit you refer to.

I found this online... about the parts names... hope this helps a little... http://www.topglock.com/Content.aspx...agram_Topglock

[hybridatsun350]

[glockmeister]

Thanks to I Like Guns, I found the technical names of the parts. So I replaced the pull connector, trigger spring, firing pin spring, and extractor depressor spring. I knpw it may malfunction as its not stock anymore, but just wondering if its more trouble than what its worth. I guess the only way to find out is to go to the range and shoot it. If not, I can always drop the factory items back in.

[BamBam-31]

Don't know which kit you're referring to, but I have a drop-in kit from www.triggerkit.com (no longer in business, IINM) for my G17, and it's 100% reliable w/ my reloads (Winchester primers). Improved the trigger pull quite a bit, too. I think the kit had many of the same parts yours did.

[Black Majik]

I use the same above, some of the springs were swapped with Wolff's competition spring kit in my G17 and have had no light primer strikes. My G34 runs the same as bambam-31's (springs and all) except with a Ghost Rocket connector. My G17 runs a LWD connector. No problems with either setups.

[Gryff]

I did a similar modification to my wife's G34 using the Rocket trigger kit. She did get light strikes occasionally (using WWB) until she improved her grip. Now it never happens.

If you are specifically concerned about it, but the factory striker spring back in. You're trigger pull will increase in weight slightly, but you'll get more-reliable primer detonation.

[glockmeister]

The springs I dropped in were Wolff and the connector was a ghost. I don't reload and shoot the miwall show reloads. Never had a problem with that ammo. I am going to try and get to the range tonight and try it out. Hopefully, I can get away from the gf for a few hours...hahahah

I'll post my experience after and thank you everyone for your thoughts!!

[Greg-Dawg]

Honestly, I've done so many mods to my Glocks that I end up going back to stock.

If you get any malfunctions, then you know what to do.

[Voo]

Im not sure why you needed to change out the extractor bearing spring? I would keep that stock to make sure you get reliable extraction. There really is no reason to change it.

The safety plunger spring should keep your safety working. It doesnt need to be as stiff as the OEM one. I cut off a few of the coils here as it doesnt effect the reliability of the gun, just whether or not the safety block is engaged.. So long as the plunger is not flopping around and actually pushing back, youll be fine.

The trigger return spring will probably be "stronger" than the OEM. Even with a 13# recoil spring, you shouldnt get any out of battery, front sight wiggle when the trigger is pressed.

The striker spring and connector are the 2 main culprits that often lead to poor detonation/light strikes. I use the 3.5 OEM connector. Despite what people say, think the 3.5# connector DOES NOT reduce your trigger pull to that weight. It is the lightest connector Glock offers and it's noticeably different than the 5# and 7# connectors. I never had issue with the Lone Wolf connector either. YMMV

The striker spring has the most effect on primer detonation (IMHO). I run a Wolff reduced power striker spring and it's typically good for 4-6000 rounds before I start experiencing light primer strikes. If you start experiencing light strikes, that would be the first thing I would change out.

If you're going to use this for competition, that's fine. If this were a home defense/work gun, I would replace all the springs back to stock.

And for those of you who seem to think Wolf primers are bad- I've fired over 10 sleeves of the stuff through my glock. From my experiences plus those of my IPSC buddies shooting glocks, it seems that there are a couple of basic scenarios when using a Wolff Reduced Power Spring:

Federal Primers : Always goes bang. Most reliable primers available.
Winchester/Remington Primers : Very reliable but slightly harder than Federal.
Wolf Primers : Very reliable ignition so long as the spring is new or OEM. Wolff striker spring tends to weaken around the 4000 round mark - Definitely watch for light strikes.
CCI : Inconsistent detonation with new Wolff striker springs. Very hard cup.

This is just my personal experience, so yours may differ..

[Ultimate]

Only way to know is to try it out. If you do get a light primer strike just change the striker spring back or get a lighter firing pin.

[glockmeister]

Just an update after some range time after the competition spring kit installed. Out of 70 rounds, no problems at all. Every pull went bang and I think I had a lot better groupings too. Not sure if I just got lucky or the spring kit helped my accuracy. Well, all seems well so I am going to stick with those until something fails. Thanks for the infor everyone!!

[Gryff]

Just an update after some range time after the competition spring kit installed. Out of 70 rounds, no problems at all. Every pull went bang and I think I had a lot better groupings too. Not sure if I just got lucky or the spring kit helped my accuracy. Well, all seems well so I am going to stick with those until something fails. Thanks for the infor everyone!!

The easier the trigger pull, the less you have to muscle through the trigger to break the shot. Usually results in tighter groups.