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  • Burnout
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    • Jul 2009
    • 337

    hammer bite?

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    GunDog
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2008
    • 1807

    I remember back in the 70's before beavertail grip safeties became popular I was always getting the web of my hand chewed up by the hammer of my Colt .45 auto. Eventually it calloused up and I was quite proud of it; wore it like a badge of honor so to speak. Other shooters would see it and know that I shot a .45. Nowadays all my .45's sport beavertails and they are much more comfortable to shoot.
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    • #3
      PatriotnMore
      Calguns Addict
      • Nov 2007
      • 7068

      You can use a power grip, where if you are right handed the left thumb locks over the right thumb, and keeps the gun from coming back and biting you.
      ‎"If Congress can do whatever in their discretion can be done by money, and will promote the General Welfare, the Government is no longer a limited one, possessing enumerated powers, but an indefinite one, subject to particular exceptions."
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      'Letter to Edmund Pendleton', 1792

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      • #4
        Burnout
        Member
        • Jul 2009
        • 337

        Originally posted by PatriotnMore
        You can use a power grip, where if you are right handed the left thumb locks over the right thumb, and keeps the gun from coming back and biting you.

        not clear, got a pic?

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        • #5
          PatriotnMore
          Calguns Addict
          • Nov 2007
          • 7068

          ‎"If Congress can do whatever in their discretion can be done by money, and will promote the General Welfare, the Government is no longer a limited one, possessing enumerated powers, but an indefinite one, subject to particular exceptions."
          --James Madison
          'Letter to Edmund Pendleton', 1792

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          • #6
            Burnout
            Member
            • Jul 2009
            • 337

            thanks, will try it out.

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            • #7
              barrym66
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2009
              • 2228

              Originally posted by GunDog
              ....Eventually it calloused up and I was quite proud of it; wore it like a badge of honor so to speak.
              BTDT.... I have added beavertails where possible as I have 'fleshy' hands. Tough to avoid getting bitten, esp. if you are trying for a high grip...I've now got a pretty big scar/callous as well but still occasionally get bitten.

              Not sure how well it shows up in this pic...

              Barry

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              • #8
                9mmepiphany
                Calguns Addict
                • Jul 2008
                • 8075

                rather than use a less efficient grip, i'd recommend just grinding the hammer spur a little shorter...or you could go whole hog and change out the hammer to a commander style and add a beavertail grip safety
                ...because the journey is the worthier part...The Shepherd's Tale

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                • #9
                  f33dback
                  Member
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 327

                  Hey no offense meant here, but why do you guys put up with 1911's? They seem to need constant maintenance and then there's "hammer bite", they are large (yes I know there are smaller models), over priced, and I keep seeing negative comments on their reliability due to the above.
                  I've felt the trigger, it's nice, they are pretty but it seems like you have to put up with a lot with these hot house flowers.
                  Educate me.
                  "If any question why we died,
                  Tell them because our fathers lied."

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                  • #10
                    nickvig
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 527

                    I don't understand how this happens to people. I have a 1991 and the hammer doesn't come close to touching the web of my thumb and first finger when it's cocked back. Take a pic of your grip, I'm interested to see how you grip the gun and what is causing the hammer bite.
                    -Nick-

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                    • #11
                      barrym66
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 2228

                      Originally posted by f33dback
                      Hey no offense meant here, but why do you guys put up with 1911's? They seem to need constant maintenance and then there's "hammer bite", they are large (yes I know there are smaller models), over priced, and I keep seeing negative comments on their reliability due to the above.
                      I've felt the trigger, it's nice, they are pretty but it seems like you have to put up with a lot with these hot house flowers.
                      Educate me.
                      Take this with a grain of salt as I'm primarily a Glock shooter (G35/G22/G34)...but I really, really like the superior feel and ergonomics of the basic 1911A1 design...and they are far sexier than the polymer guns.

                      If I could afford the $6K+ it would take to replace the 3 Glocks I now shoot (for Limited 10, Production, and Open classes) with CA-rostered, comp quality 1911's... I'd switch in a minute.

                      Agreed however that they tend not to be as reliable and are a LOT more maintenance and tuning sensitive than Glocks, XD's, etc.. Every class I've attended has had a few 1911's fail, but I've yet to see a Glock stop running unless the shooter does something stupid (like loading 9's in a 40...no, not me!).

                      But I still roll out my Colt and Springfield 1911's occasionally...and I also get the "Glock slide cut" if I'm not as careful with my grip on the production Glock's as I am when shooting the 1911 with hammer bite.

                      YMMV....
                      Last edited by barrym66; 02-22-2010, 7:23 PM. Reason: typos
                      Barry

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                      • #12
                        f33dback
                        Member
                        • Feb 2010
                        • 327

                        Yes a gentleman at a gun store (to remain unnamed) dropped a $2500 1911 into my hand and it felt great, much better than my Glock 21 SF, at 5 times the price.
                        He spent 45 minutes of his time trying to convince me to buy a 1911.
                        I'll stick with the gun that can do this: http://www.theprepared.com/index.php...ask=view&id=90

                        Off topic as usual but thanks for your input.
                        "If any question why we died,
                        Tell them because our fathers lied."

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                        • #13
                          9mmepiphany
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Jul 2008
                          • 8075

                          I've felt the trigger, it's nice, they are pretty but it seems like you have to put up with a lot with these hot house flowers.
                          Educate me.
                          it's a lot like owning a Porsche 911, more practical than a Prancing Horse or Lambo...but so much more soul than a Camry or Accord

                          I'll stick with the gun that can do this:
                          it did...just in 1910
                          ...because the journey is the worthier part...The Shepherd's Tale

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                          • #14
                            Voo
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2008
                            • 1702

                            Yea, this has to be one of the biggest fails on the 1911.. Hammer bite.. So many people have experienced it... I know it's not something that is going to stop anyone from shooting if a badguy was RIGHT there.. But using it to practice on a weekly basis, or giving a non-beavertailed 1911 to a new shooter is not something I see as desirable..

                            As for altering my "master" grip.. I'd rather not compromise as it works extremely well on every other pistol platform I've ever come across.. It's a horrible selling point to say you need a "special" or "modified" grip to avoid getting scraped up while shooting a gun.. The gun has a bad design feature is all.. It's easily remedied with a bobbed hammer or beavertail..

                            Now, before some of the 1911' afficionados go and get their pitchforks and torches, Im not bashing the 1911.. Im simply pointing out that it has a flaw or two.. I absolutely love the platform.. I have several Ponies myself.. It's just that Im simply being objective about some of it's weaker points..

                            To be fair, I really cant' think of a better 'feeling" gun when the grip is hi-cut beneath the triggerguard, 30LPI'ed along the front strap and combined with a flat MSH..
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                            • #15
                              JTROKS
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Nov 2007
                              • 13093

                              A commander style hammer and a beavertail and all is solved. The reason for 1911s is, because they are about the best platform to build on a very accurate pistol. Aftermarket parts are everywhere with all sorts of manufacturers and flavor. Just go to an USPSA club match and you'll see what pistols rule the top bracket.
                              The wise man said just find your place
                              In the eye of the storm
                              Seek the roses along the way
                              Just beware of the thorns...
                              K. Meine

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