Double tap Question

[eighteenninetytwo]

So I hear this phrase rattled off all over the place. I know it refers tio a 1/2 of shots almost instantly. realistically - what is the quickest one should try to acheive this, bearing in mind recoil, trigger reset etc etc. Also are there any specific drills one can carry out to be able to acheive it.

[5150bronco]

there is good video on you tube that explains this.

with recoil....you want the recoil to work with no resistance from shooter and allow the recoil to reset gun for next shot and not forcing hand to position.

[will227457]

start slow and work up to speed at short distances, I know guys who can double tap the 10 ring at 25 yards in less than 2 seconds from their holster

[liketoshoot]

Practice.............alot.
I'm still trying for sub 2 second one hole group, not a big space between.

[Juicymeat]

A double tap is nothing more than two shots with very little time in between. Start slow, getting a proper sight picture with each shot, then pick up the pace and try to keep them reasonably tight. Learning to track the front sight during recoil not only helps with double taps but with speed shooting as well.

[Black Majik]

I've always followed it as:

Double tap = 2 shots, 1 sight picture

Controlled pair = 2 shots, 2 sight pictures

[Bug Splat]

Once you play with it a little you can figure out how long it takes for the muzzle to come back down and when it does you fire again. Fighting recoil is a game you can't win. Try not to force the gun back down. Let it do its recoil thing and come down naturally. I can fire maybe 4 9mm shots in a second while still keeping with in a few inches at 10 yards.

Competing in plate or steel matches is a great way to increase speed and followup shots. To practice I will hang 2 paper plates from the hangers at the range. I will shot one and see how fast I can shoot the other. POP POP. I will do this left to right and right to left starting at 10 yards and working back to 30. My speed and accuracy got a lot better and I actually became competitive. I never was the best or won first place at a plate match but I had a lot of fun trying and am happy with my speed and accuracy.

[9mmepiphany]

i agree with Black Majik as to the original meaning of the term "double tap"...it was taking one sight picture and triggering two shots before the muzzle/sights would come off the target.

it comes from the time when the "hard Weaver" stance was at it's height of popularity and shooters believed that they could hold a 1911 down, during recoil, with grip/stance tension. it also entailed "slapping" the trigger through the 2nd shot...which you can almost get away with on a tuned 1911.

a controlled pair, a separate sight picture for each shot, gives you better accuracy through trigger control. with proper instruction and practice, you should be able to trigger shots, at the same target, at a rate of 4-5 shots per second

[clickbang]

Are you normally allowed to double-tap at ranges that dont allow rapid fire?

[cmichini]

I practice double tap at the range which doesn't allow rapid fire. I think the 2quick shots, in a controlled manner will probably not get much notice from a rangemaster. Also, if they are watching they will see the raise (draw if allowed) of pistol/shot/shot/lower pistol. If they've beena round guns they'll realize this is some sort of disciplined training vs. Gomer blasting away.

Also, a string of 5+ very quickly will get someone's attention. Afterall unless you're alone at the range, 2 shots close together just sounds like folks shooting. A longer string will 'sound' like rapid fire.

[clickbang]

makes sense...thanks

[b.faust]

I always prefer the term "Hammer" myself.

Are you normally allowed to double-tap at ranges that dont allow rapid fire?

I'd say probably no, you're not allowed.
That being said, it never hurts to ask. You might find out that the range in question has class, or special session you can attend where you can not only engage in some rapid fire, but also be in luck to have someone qualified to help you learn the skills and work with you to perfect them.*

(*Disclaimer: I am not saying I'm that person, nor that I can execute a hammer perfectly.)

[B Strong]

So I hear this phrase rattled off all over the place. I know it refers tio a 1/2 of shots almost instantly. realistically - what is the quickest one should try to acheive this, bearing in mind recoil, trigger reset etc etc. Also are there any specific drills one can carry out to be able to acheive it.

It's all a matter of practice and developing the skill to feel the trigger reset, not allowing the trigger to go through it's full range of travel after reset (essentially taking up the slack by holding the trigger in place) and squeezing rather than slapping the trigger for the second shot.

Ideally you're point shooting with both eyes open.

Other posters have noted that in fighting the recoil, you're less in true control of the piece, and that's 100% correct.

I find it best to absorb the recoil impulse and concentrate on squeezing the trigger on the second round when the pistol has returned to the horizontal sight plane.

Tight groups are always best, but if you're placing shots on the vertical plane on the target center, I don't care if one's in the ten and one is in the neck or the pelvis if the hits are on the center plane of the target.

[djleisure]

Are you normally allowed to double-tap at ranges that dont allow rapid fire?

Definitely depends on the range. It is always wise to ask and not assume - they will appreciate it either way.

[j1133s]

So I hear this phrase rattled off all over the place. I know it refers tio a 1/2 of shots almost instantly. realistically - what is the quickest one should try to acheive this, bearing in mind recoil, trigger reset etc etc. Also are there any specific drills one can carry out to be able to acheive it.

I think the PC term now is "2 placed shots", at least in the games like IDPA/IPSC.
The key is to watch the front sight and let your gun recoil naturally, when you see your front sight again, fire another round. You can place 2 shots (or any number of shots actually) into the same area in a short time.

I also know some shooters who just squeezes 2 roudns off really fast only aiming the first round. I've never had any success w/ this. I think maybe only once did it ever work for me. But the method I mentioned above works all the time for me and is just as fast.