Polish P64 9X18??

[matrix056]

So I stumbled across this...

http://www.jgsales.com/product_info.php/products_id/2453

I have always wanted a Walther PPK, but figured this might be a cheap substitute. Anybody have experience with these pistols?

How is the availability of the 9X18 mak round?

[mblat]

if you look - you can find it cheaper than this

http://ammoman.com/index.htm

And BTW: the one I've shoot had VERY heavy trigger.

[VegasND]

So I stumbled across this...

http://www.jgsales.com/product_info.php/products_id/2453

I have always wanted a Walther PPK, but figured this might be a cheap substitute. Anybody have experience with these pistols?

How is the availability of the 9X18 mak round?

I bought one at J&G last year -- picked it up at Henderson Defense. I like and recommend them both.

I've fired the pistol a couple of times. It's a good little pistol; small but fairly heavy. It is OBVIOUSLY not a PPK(the PPK is a much nicer pistol)

I generally pick up 500 rounds pretty close to once a year at J&G when I'm there anyway and split it with my son.

My P64 also feeds the Silver Bear JHP ammo, but my experience is that it's hit or miss with surplus pistols; be prepared to polish the feed ramp if you want to use hollow points.

[gearhead15]

I've got one of the J&G Sales P-64 pistols. I bought the Wolff spring kit at the same time, it made the trigger pull in DA bearable but not great. It's my pocket carry pistol, I love small lightweight all-metal pistols for pocket carry and it has a manual safety which is a big plus on a pocket gun. I've run about 50 rounds through mine at the range, it's very accurate and probably about as snappy as a .40 S&W compact poly pistol. It has good ergonomics though, and it's not hard to control.

Mine has no problem with Silver Bear JHP or FMJ, the guys over on the P-64 forum advise against Wolf ammo though.

[waltrich]

This might be a dumb question but are these P64s the same design as a Russian Makarov, or others?

..and how do these compare to the CZ-82s?

Sorry if that's a little "off topic".

[gearhead15]

The P-64 is a different design from the Russian Mak and the CZ-82. The P-64 is a little smaller and lighter, and appears to have been heavily influenced by the design of the Walther PPK. All are blowback pistols and share the pros and cons of that design. The P-64 uses a single stack mag so it's thin but suffers from reduced capacity. It's about the same height and length as a snubby revolver, is slightly heavier but a bit narrower, and carries 6+1 rather than the snubby's 5.